Audie
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"You people"?
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Faith is not evidence. This is why atheism has more of an advantage.
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"You people"?
Sorry, materialists.
Audie
Veteran Member
I am just me, no particular label to best describe I guess.
Not religious.
How would you describe a "materialist"?
Who here if I may ask, are examples?
Is it true that all materialists are as you say?
A materialist believes all reality is matter. To this date every materialist I've talked with is this way.
Subduction Zone
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Please, I supported my claims. You did not support yours. You were shown to be wrong to the point that you changed your question and you would still not own up to your error. There is no point in debating with a person that cannot follow the rules of debate.
Subduction Zone
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No one has claimed to be a materialist here. You simply made a gross error that was corrected.
You jump to incorrect conclusions a bit too quickly at times.
Subduction Zone
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Subduction Zone
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Good for you. Go ahead and check out the link. Wikipedia articles have links to its sources. And no, you "told" me no such thing. You screwed up by hitting the wrong button and did not quote me, though you did that in another thread. If you do not understand something you should ask questions politely and properly. People here will help you.
Audie
Veteran Member
Math is not matter.
Correct! One of the many reasons materialism is nonsense.
Lol.
Nobody needed to, I just pointed out it was a faith based position. But hey, if you actually had evidence supporting materialism you'd accept the position, so i guess since you don't you have no evidence.
That's because you have no grasp on philosophy.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
He makes the error of assuming that all atheists are materialists. He got his panties in a knot earlier because he could not defend his claim of "There is no evidence for materialism". He made the error of thinking that my correction of his error meant that I was a materialist, even though I pointed out that I never claimed to be one.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I know, your fail was rather hilarious.
Still have not learned your lesson. You need to be able to support that claim. When one makes a positive assertion one must be ready to support it. I do believe that I provided a link that explained that.
That is clearly not true, the problem is that you have a poor grasp of logic and how to debate. And oddly enough you want to challenge people to a one on one debate. Why would anyone bother debating with a person that does not know how to follow the rules of debate?
Except I didn't? I specifically separated atheists from materialists. Atheists can also be Dualists, or idealists. Reported for intentionally misrepresenting my position.
I have supported the claim though. I've explained that there's no evidence for materialism. I've explained that there is evidence against materialism (such as property Dualism). Reported for trolling.
Reported for trolling and personal attacks.
Audie
Veteran Member
Perhaps. Seems to me more like a reason to think there are no
materialists. So defined, that is.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Where did you ever do that? The first post that I saw here of yours made this claim of yours which you have not been able to support at all:
"I mean atheism led to materialism, the most faith driven and irrational position I've heard of."
Your inability to support your claims when challenged tells us that there is not much behind them. By the way, that is not a reportable offense. Name calling, such as calling a person a troll, which you did is a reportable offense, so is abusing smiley's. another action that you took, and calling a person a liar, you did that too. You are now claiming to be a mind reader, no mod is going to be impressed by that.
No, you haven't. You have merely repeated an unsupported claim. That is not support. You need outside sources when challenged. You are not an authority here. I am not an authority here. That is why you need links of actual sources that support your claims. When you do not support your claims even a source as lowly as RationalWiki refutes you.
By the way claiming that someone is trolling is a reportable offense too. And correcting your errors in not a reportable offense.
Though that may be a "personal attack" it looks much more like an clear and concise analogy of your behavior here. It clearly is not "trolling" and once again claims of "trolling" are reportable. It is akin to name calling. You made claims. You were not able to support them. Your logical errors were identified and supported with links that explained your errors to you. That is not "trolling".
Materialists believe math isn't an objective ontology, that it's simply a concept. I agree it's absurd.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Really? What definition of "Materialists" are you using? Link please.