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"Faith is the adult version of the childhood game 'Let's Pretend'"

McBell

Unbound
Faith is trust: "I put my trust that god exist even though I don't know that he does."

Pretend is more "I make it appear or give myself the impression that god exists even though he does not."

It's like a believer is looking over a fogged cliff. Pretend is convincing oneself that god exists and catch them at the bottom. It becomes knowledge even though it's fake.

Faith is more the believer is looking over a fogged cliff, and whether or not he claims god is at the bottom, he puts trust/hope that he does even though he cannot verify it beyond his personal experiences.

It may sound like pretend, but faith is just "please, I hope, hope, hope that I will go to heaven when I die. I put all my trust in god because I want to live with him."

Pretend is more "I have told myself I will go to heaven; and, the more I keep telling myself I am, I know I will go."

Makes sense?
Yes.
It does make sense.
how do you label/call/describe the overlap?
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
I was recently told, "Faith is the adult version of the childhood game 'Let's Pretend'". In what way, if any, is that true? In what way, if any, is that false?

I did let's pretend as a child a lot, but I always knew it was pretending, and that is difference. Adults don't realize they are "pretending".
 

McBell

Unbound
Your dishonesty is disgusting and I expected no less.
I edited the post you quoted and added the evidence of your blatant dishonesty and showed your hypocrisy for all to see.

I notice you present absolutely no evidence to back your bold empty claims.


Have a nice day.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member

Could you please correct this so I know exactly what you mean?

"Faith is the assurance of things hope HORK the conviction of things not seen."

What is hork?

Oh nvm. I found a source online.

What is the definition of faith?

“Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” Simply put, the biblical definition of faith is “trusting in something you cannot explicitly prove.”

What is the equivalence of "hoped for" and "the conviction of things not seen?"

I see some parallels to the OP but in fairness, it's not an exact comparison.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Could you please correct this so I know exactly what you mean?

"Faith is the assurance of things hope HORK the conviction of things not seen."

What is hork?

Oh nvm. I found a source online.

What is the definition of faith?

“Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” Simply put, the biblical definition of faith is “trusting in something you cannot explicitly prove.”

What is the equivalence of "hoped for" and "the conviction of things not seen?"

I see some parallels to the OP but in fairness, it's not an exact comparison.
That web site is an abomination. In the first place that verse is not a definition of faith. Its just saying that you know things are true because of faithfulness. Taking it out of context like that site does allows a whimsical money making definition for faith.

Example: Ed is always busy, so I know that he will get the job done. That is the way the author is describing faith.
 

McBell

Unbound
I was recently told, "Faith is the adult version of the childhood game 'Let's Pretend'". In what way, if any, is that true? In what way, if any, is that false?
Seems to me it is dependant upon the person.
For some it is not even close.
For others it is spot on.

I wonder how far the "pretend" in intended by the author to reach...?
There are a few members right here on RF that pretend there is no evidence for evolution...
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
That web site is an abomination. In the first place that verse is not a definition of faith. Its just saying that you know things are true because of faithfulness. Taking it out of context like that site does allows a whimsical money making definition for faith.

Example: Ed is always busy, so I know that he will get the job done. That is the way the author is describing faith.

I'm not an expert here. So if you have a site for the proper definition, then please reference it if you can.

Thanks
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not an expert here. So if you have a site for the proper definition, then please reference it if you can.

Thanks
I do not mean to criticize you, Suncowiam. Let me refer you to the concordance for the Greek term 'Pistis' It is variously translated as faithfulness as well as belief, not strictly belief. Cults find it convenient to call the word belief, and gotquestions.org is a cult source not a scholarly one. Its going to tell you to sit down, shut up and pay $$. That is the job of that site -- to shut up questions.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
I do not mean to criticize you, Suncowiam. Let me refer you to the concordance for the Greek term 'Pistis' It is variously translated as faithfulness as well as belief, not strictly belief. Cults find it convenient to call the word belief, and gotquestions.org is a cult source not a scholarly one. Its going to tell you to sit down, shut up and pay $$. That is the job of that site -- to shut up questions.

No worries. I admit can be very wrong concerning religious ideals.
 

Sakeenah

Well-Known Member
I was recently told, "Faith is the adult version of the childhood game 'Let's Pretend'". In what way, if any, is that true? In what way, if any, is that false?

It would be interesting to know how that person came to that conclusion.

Personally I think there's a major difference between childhood pretend play and faith. Pretend play is not just play it's an important part of every child’s social, emotional, and cognitive development.Through pretend play children develop social skills and appreciation, kids get new information about the world around them. Also by taking on new personalities children learn about different perspectives and understanding emotions of different types of people. It gives a child tools for experiences later in life such as emotional regulation, creativity, and logical reasoning.

The definition of faith is very different. Faith is trust,confidence in a person,thing. For religious people it often means trust and confidence in God. I liked how @Kirran explained faith.

Is that person saying that adults aren't fully developed and that faith is an important part of every adult's social, emotional, and cognitive development.
If this isn't what the statement is referring to (and hopefully he isn't because most adults should have developed by now)
than I would say he hasn't understood the meaning of both faith and pretend play.
 
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suidaht

New Member
I was recently told, "Faith is the adult version of the childhood game 'Let's Pretend'". In what way, if any, is that true? In what way, if any, is that false?

The childhood game "let's pretend" is a game where children put on the appearance or take the role of something or someone they are not. Faith, in Christianity, is trust. It is saying "I believe that God is guiding me." It isn't pretending to know what we do not know, or even asserting things we are unsure of, but simply saying "I don't know for fact it is true, but to me, I find truth in this."

I hope this helps a little!
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
People who have faith are not pretending. They truly believe they have something that only God can give. If you do not feel the same way, why question what they believe to be true?
 
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