Talking of thin skins......TBH, I was actually shocked to hear that the Methodist Church supports evolution. What was untrue about what I said? Denying creation if one identifies as a Christian, flies in the face of everything Jesus taught. Without the Bible, what would any of us know about Christ? Who is free to dispense with the word of God for the sake of saving face by supporting popular opinion? Is a perfect God ever wrong? Are flawed humans always right?
Well if that is the case, why respond in such a wounded fashion? If my opinion is just my opinion, then you have no need to be offended. I am so used to people bagging out my religion, its just water off a duck's back. Jesus said that his disciples would be hated....so its something all Christians should be prepared for. Has no one ever questioned the beliefs of your church before? (John 15:18-21) I'm sure the Jews felt the same way when Jesus attacked their religion.....but it was also his religion......or was it?
Does the Bible say that God created evolution? If the Bible is the word of God as Jesus said, then who has authority to alter what it says? Genesis gives us the order of creation and states that God prepared the earth for the living creatures that he planned to put into specially prepared habitats, with plenty of food and fresh water already there for them. How does evolution fit into that scenario?
Why can't the Genesis account be true as stated? Perhaps its the 6 / 24 hour days? Did you know that Genesis does not say that the "days" were 24 hours long? And that the earth itself is very ancient and that creation took place, slowly and deliberately over probably millions of years? Would that make a difference? That makes the Bible agree with science regarding the age of the earth at least. The order in which living things appear also agrees with the order of appearance according to science. Life began in the ocean.
Who said it was? We are all free willed beings, given enough rope by a Creator to show him what we are made of..... he is testing our mettle. So how do you think we are all doing so far?
You don't seem to see that it works both ways.....people raised with evolution are just as indoctrinated as they believe we are. You have to be "persuaded" either way. What do you believe makes the difference? (John 6:65)
Until it collapsed.....I have a very firm belief that the scientific 'house of straw' will be blown away too. It has no foundation and the Bible says a 'storm' is coming. It is an impressive edifice built on sand.
Since the people who did the research wrote the literature, I don't know what else I was supposed to make of it.
I don't always refer to AIG but the figures in this video are pretty impressive.
Probability of Evolution
Can you counter anything this man says with science? What is the probability of life arising by chance?
Christianity does not allow for indecisiveness. You have to choose either God or evolution because in this issue, you have two completely opposing views. Anyone that can make creation and the present understanding of evolution join forces is compromising both.
However, the Bible itself allows for a meeting in the middle, making science and the Bible compatible, which if there is a Creator God, has to be the case. He invented science after all.
That works both ways again. Don't those who want to be seen as embracing both concepts just accept what is thrown to them? Science does not know how life arose. It assumes that the scenario is as described in their diagrams and deductions....yet they have nothing but those diagrams and deductions, fed by biastly interpreted evidence to support their claims. They don't even know if macro-evolution is possible...they have never seen it. They imagine it....and then feed it to people like its the only truth. We believe what we want to believe.
Like yourself, I am inclined to return serve if I think it is warranted. But I sometimes react to posters who usually respond with personal attacks rather than to address the issues. I know when that happens that they have no other comeback.
In this thread so far have you seen or provided one shred of evidence in defense of macro-evolution?
Inspect your own skin first then is probably a good idea. This is an emotive issue...but do you know why?
Why should it be if the science has the answers and should not be questioned? If the response is a knee-jerk of emotion, then something has struck a nerve. I often wonder if evolutionists are just wishful thinkers who hope that they are right...because if we deny God is the Creator then we will not be invited into his Kingdom.
I believe that where we stand on this issue has long term consequences really.
If Jesus was there at his Father's side helping to create the whole shebang, (Genesis 1:27; Colossians 1:5-17; Matthew 19:4) then denying it in favor of what atheists teach is a bit telling, don't you think? What is that saying about the level of faith? Is it a thin veneer that can be destroyed with the slightest doubt?
My hide is indeed tough through decades of assault by unbelievers and believers alike. I am not offended by anyone's posts but it seems redundant to keep rehashing the same issues with with the same poster.
I assure you I have done my homework. Perhaps you have not really researched the topic as well as you think you have?
Then you completely misunderstand my reason for posting on these forums.
I am not trying to convince anyone who is already convinced....I am divided from them already.....its the undecided that I post for through these conversations. They can then go and research for themselves if what I am saying is true. Informed choice can only be achieved when all sides have been examined.
Have you or anyone else given me anything to listen to? I am waiting patiently for something other than excuses.
I have had seven decades to form my opinions.....I assure you none of them were reached without due diligence on my part. If you have anything that I have not heard a thousand times before then please impress me with the science.....