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Fatah-Hamas pact - good or bad? Is Netanyahu justified in suspending peace talks?

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas must abandon his pact with Hamas if he wants peace, Israel's PM Benjamin Netanyahu has said in an interview with the BBC.

Israel suspended peace talks with the Palestinians on Thursday in response to a unity deal between Hamas and Fatah.

- Netanyahu says Abbas must abandon unity deal with Hamas - BBC News

What does the Fatah-Hamas pact mean for the region and the situation in Israel and Palestine? Was it a good idea or a bad one?

Is Israeli PM Netanyahu justified in suspending the peace talks with Palestine?
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas must abandon his pact with Hamas if he wants peace, Israel's PM Benjamin Netanyahu has said in an interview with the BBC.

Israel suspended peace talks with the Palestinians on Thursday in response to a unity deal between Hamas and Fatah.

- Netanyahu says Abbas must abandon unity deal with Hamas - BBC News

What does the Fatah-Hamas pact mean for the region and the situation in Israel and Palestine? Was it a good idea or a bad one?

Is Israeli PM Netanyahu justified in suspending the peace talks with Palestine?

I think as a general rule of some, when a former (and I use former very lightly here) terrorist organization makes a deal with another terrorist organization on the way to peace talks with you, you can begin to question where your talks are going to end up.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
The peace talks were a sham to start with. If Israel wanted peace, why are they continuing the illegal settlements? There are Israelis who want peace, but they seem to be in a minority.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
so finally the zoinistes find a justification to their rejection to hte dailogue of peace with Palestians
 


Is Israeli PM Netanyahu justified in suspending the peace talks with Palestine?


He should never have started them. Whether PA or Hamas, they want to destroy Israel.
The Israeli government has been far too generous. They have bent over backwards to make peace which has always been refused. Including offers of most of the West Bank.
The Israelis have released hundreds of murderers, many of whom go right back to murder. I don't know why the Israelis have become so blind.Maybe now they realise.
The Israelis should have annexed everything after the 1967 war.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
He should never have started them. Whether PA or Hamas, they want to destroy Israel.
how about Israel destroied the Palestine state by the occupation in west bank ...etc , they had no word in the deal ?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
they using the strategy of " Power Talk " instead of respecting their deals with Palestinians and seeking for peace .
 
how about Israel destroied the Palestine state by the occupation in west bank ...etc , they had no word in the deal ?

Israel conquered the West Bank when it was attacked by Jordan. There was no Palestinian state. or war against Palestinians.
It was only after Jordan lost that they gave up the West Bank.
Read this Jordanian occupation of the West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Similarly Gaza was occupied by Israel in it's war with Egypt.Egypt refused to take it back.
" Egyptian President Anwar Sadat refused to accept the Gaza Strip back, preferring that its Palestinian inhabitants remain under Israeli sovereignty."
Read this
Egyptian President Anwar Sadat refused to accept the Gaza Strip back, preferring that its Palestinian inhabitants remain under Israeli sovereignty.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Israel conquered the West Bank when it was attacked by Jordan. There was no Palestinian state. or war against Palestinians.
It was only after Jordan lost that they gave up the West Bank.
Read this Jordanian occupation of the West Bank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Similarly Gaza was occupied by Israel in it's war with Egypt.Egypt refused to take it back.
" Egyptian President Anwar Sadat refused to accept the Gaza Strip back, preferring that its Palestinian inhabitants remain under Israeli sovereignty."
Read this
Egyptian President Anwar Sadat refused to accept the Gaza Strip back, preferring that its Palestinian inhabitants remain under Israeli sovereignty.
I know that :)

there is so many historic events , I am talking about the deals between the Palestinians and Israelis .

, which say the West Bank is for the Palestinians .

Israel cut and colonise the West Bank , which denied by whole the world .

so the Isreali used to break their word (deal) and justify the colonise to west bank .
 
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I know that :)

there is so many historic events , I am talking about the deals between the Palestinians and Israelis .

, which say the West Bank is for the Palestinians .

Israel cut and colonise the West Bank , which denied by whole the world .

so the Isreali used to break their word (deal) and justify the colonise to west bank .

I am not sure which 'deals' you are referring to. As far as I know a deal has never been reached. Hence these 'peace' talks that have been going on in one shape or another for years.
Quite honestly , as someone who has lived there, Israel would be mad to allow any independent state in the West Bank. The best the Palestinians can hope for is a de-militarized West Bank, where they run there own affairs with Israel providing it's security.
 
Israel - mandated to serve as a light among nations - has become a human rights nightmare of embarrassing proportions.

If I held Israel to such a lofty ideal( light among nations), I would also be embarrassed. But since I don't, I just see Israel like most other countries,very few of which have a good human rights record.

Out of interest,is there anything you like about Israel?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I am not sure which 'deals' you are referring to. As far as I know a deal has never been reached. Hence these 'peace' talks that have been going on in one shape or another for years.
Quite honestly , as someone who has lived there, Israel would be mad to allow any independent state in the West Bank. The best the Palestinians can hope for is a de-militarized West Bank, where they run there own affairs with Israel providing it's security.
ok the deal between Arafat and Rabin in 1993 .

the Palestinians and Israelis made a deal about Gaza and West Bank , so the israel (because it's stronger ) break the deal and cut and colonise West Bank .

Rabin and Arafat shake on peace deal

check this link :
Rabin and Arafat Seal Their Accord as Clinton Applauds 'Brave Gamble'


and these link are bonus :

Israeli settlement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

European Union Boycotts Israeli Colonies on the Palestinian West Bank | Informed Comment
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't know the BBC's source, but they say this:
Same article said:
A senior US official said the White House would be forced to reconsider its assistance to the Palestinians if Hamas and Fatah formed an administration.
"Any Palestinian government must unambiguously and explicitly commit to non-violence, recognition of the state of Israel, and acceptance of previous agreements and obligations between the parties," the official told the Reuters news agency.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
If I held Israel to such a lofty ideal( light among nations)...

Do you think Israel -- or any nation -- should aspire to "business as usual" for its grandest ideal? Sort of like, "We the people, in order to conduct wars, commit injustices, perpetrate atrocities, and generally go about the business of being super-advanced spear-chucking apes, etc, do ordain and establish...."
 
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