Father and daughter plan to marry . . . . . .each other

[Iti oj]

Well to take advantage of one implies that one is ignorant in some way, And virginity is definitely a form of ignorance and therefore relevant.

That implies that any time some one looses here virginity they are being taken advantage off.

 

[Thana]

Interesting the assumptions used to the justify the "ick" factor...

I'm curious, Are you saying you approve?

 

[Revoltingest]

 

[McBell]

I'm curious, Are you saying you approve?

I am saying that there are loads of assumptions being made.

There has to be assumptions because the story does not give enough information.

To be blunt and to the point, it is none of my business.
But then, I do not feel the need to shove my own bias and prejudice down the throats of others.

 

[LuisDantas]

Undue fantasies and idealization about "showing him that she is worthy", undue abandonment guilty issues, possible power assymetry in the relationship, high risk of unhealthy recessive gene expression.

Those are the reasons to see this relationship with a lot of worry of suspicion that come to my mind right now.

 

[LuisDantas]

That implies that any time some one looses here virginity they are being taken advantage off.

Not always, but there is a mystique to it still. Inexperience is a real factor.

 

[McBell]

Undue fantasies and idealization about "showing him that she is worthy", undue abandonment guilty issues, possible power assymetry in the relationship, high risk of unhealthy recessive gene expression.

Those are the reasons to see this relationship with a lot of worry of suspicion that come to my mind right now.

I agree there are reasons for suspicion.

My question:
Who here on RF has enough information on them to honestly say it is coercion without it being an assumption on their part?

 

[Thana]

I am saying that there are loads of assumptions being made.

There has to be assumptions because the story does not give enough information.

To be blunt and to the point, it is none of my business.
But then, I do not feel the need to shove my own bias and prejudice down the throats of others.

There are many reasons why this is wrong, unhealthy and psychologically damaging. I think if you care about the wellbeing of people then you should make this your business.
Generally I think opinions on subjects that have nothing to do with oneself are useless and arrogant, But when it comes to people who cannot help themselves then it's right to have an opinion you believe will help them and/or people like them.

 

[LuisDantas]

I agree there are reasons for suspicion.

My question:
Who here on RF has enough information on them to honestly say it is coercion without it being an assumption on their part?

Not me, for what it is worth. Technically I can't even very well trust they exist at all.

 

[Thana]

That implies that any time some one looses here virginity they are being taken advantage off.

Mm, That's a good point though I think in general it might be true to some extent.

 

[Iti oj]

Mm, That's a good point though I think in general it might be true to some extent.

Why do you think that?

 

[Thana]

Why do you think that?

Because no matter how much you know and how prepared you are, You'll never be fully informed or completely understand sex or how you'll react to it emotionally until you have it.
So in a way, a small general way, it's inevitable that one who is experienced will take advantage of one who is not because they know what they're in for, They know what it'll do to them but the virgin won't.

 

[BSM1]

In all fairness Daddy may have been a true stud muffin.

 

[columbus]

Interesting the assumptions used to the justify the "ick" factor...

I think you are mistaking the cause and the effect. Incest has so consistently been found harmful, even disastrous, that the ick factor grew up around it.

It is not impossible that everyone involved will live happily ever after. But the odds that unhealthy dynamics will manifest and make everyone miserable is astronomically greater. The information given contains so many indicators of huge problems I don't have any significant doubt myself.

Tom

 

[Drolefille]

I seem to have an aversion to the relationship. I am not really 100% sure why.

Because we have both a societal and a psychological taboo against incest. Literally if you grow up with someone the majority of the time your brain will not see that person as a viable sexual or romantic partner. That aversion is innate.

The flip of that is we're attracted to healthy genetics and that can mean "similar" genetics to us, so if you meet a cousin or sibling you had never met before you can find yourself strongly attracted to them.

Disgusting on every level.
What if "he" impregnates her?
Will the spawn have 4 eyes, 2 noses, and both sets of genitiles?
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Yuk!
There is some kind of base aversion about "boinking yer own kid!"
Tell me? If a man and wife from redneckville get divorced are they still father and
daughter? Would they still hang tiolet paper out to dry?
He should be sterilized and she shipped off to a convent.

A) That isn't how genetics works.
B)There is an aversion, if you're around them as a kid.
C)And here's the redneck jokes, cute.
D) We haven't shipped people off to convents for a long. long. time. That isn't how convents work. Funny though that she should get "locked up" while he just gets a vasectomy.

 

[McBell]

There are many reasons why this is wrong, unhealthy and psychologically damaging. I think if you care about the wellbeing of people then you should make this your business.
Generally I think opinions on subjects that have nothing to do with oneself are useless and arrogant, But when it comes to people who cannot help themselves then it's right to have an opinion you believe will help them and/or people like them.

You have not, and to be perfectly honest about it, can not, show that they cannot help themselves.
Which is a huge part of my point.

I never said I do not have an opinion.
I am saying that my opinion is completely irrelevant because like you, I do not have enough information to form an opinion that is anything other irrelevant.
The difference being, I flat out admit my opinion is irrelevant.

 

[McBell]

I think you are mistaking the cause and the effect. Incest has so consistently been found harmful, even disastrous, that the ick factor grew up around it.

It is not impossible that everyone involved will live happily ever after. But the odds that unhealthy dynamics will manifest and make everyone miserable is astronomically greater. The information given contains so many indicators of huge problems I don't have any significant doubt myself.

Tom

I suspect you are going much deeper than one has to.

For my comment it is irrelevant why or even how they got the "ick" factor.
They are merely attempting to justify their "ick" factor with assumptions.
The assumptions being the point, not the "ick" factor.

 

[gsa]

Undue fantasies and idealization about "showing him that she is worthy", undue abandonment guilty issues, possible power assymetry in the relationship, high risk of unhealthy recessive gene expression.

Those are the reasons to see this relationship with a lot of worry of suspicion that come to my mind right now.

The link in the OP has another link to the full story on New York magazine, which is an interview that lends quite a bit of support to your concerns.

Although I would not rule out fabrication.

 

[averageJOE]

It's none of my business. I won't try to make it my business. They are both adults. His parents, her grandparents, approve. At the end of the day, my opinion is...I got my own crap to deal with.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I suspect the usa public would be shocked to know how common incest was.
very many obviously can't find it icky at all. Or the would not do it.
The ickiness of sex is entirely subjective as is its revellance to sexual orientation.