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I've had it. It was gone in a week, but I knew it was shingles and went straight to the doctor, who agreed with me and started me on the meds immediately. No long term issues at all. I got it from my dad, who was in significant pain from it (it was on the side of his face and down the side of his neck) but he also recovered fully and quickly.
No that's not it. My posts have been very clear and based on my own personal experience with the shots, a booster, COVID, etc.
Sorry, I disagree with you based on the many people I know who have been "vaccinated" (some with two boosters) but have still caught variants - one died recently but she was elderly and also had COPD and her daughter and I were just talking about her and her daughter said that "she won't live through 2023" BEFORE she got COVID (after being "vaccinated" and "boosted" for a total of four shots). All the others, vaccinated and not vaccinated, had a mild illness and got over it. Oh and variants continue to pop up all over the place. But you're right, thankfully - apparently hospitals are not overflowing with dying COVID patients. But they never were around here. Omicron XBB.1.5 'Kraken' Subvariant Is on the Rise: What To Know
My grandfather was in bed for two months in complete agony with it. The only time I ever saw him in that much pain again was when he was suffering from cancer. My mother had it all up the side of her face and in her ear canal and almost lost her hearing. Luckily she didn't. Both of these happened before a vaccine was available. Shingles isn't something to mess around with either.
They have been very clear, indeed.
You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with demonstrable facts. That's just how vaccines are designed to work.
Did you have chickenpox as a kid? If not you did not catch shingles from your father. In fact even if you did not have chickenpox as a kid you did not catch shingles from your dad. You could have caught chickenpox. If you had chickenpox as a kid stress can cause an outbreak of shingles:
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I had chicken pox as a kid. And I got the shingles from my dad, immediately after he had them. Or at least my doctor thought so.Did you have chickenpox as a kid? If not you did not catch shingles from your father. In fact even if you did not have chickenpox as a kid you did not catch shingles from your dad. You could have caught chickenpox. If you had chickenpox as a kid stress can cause an outbreak of shingles:
Shingles
Shingles is a reaction to the same virus as chickenpox and causes a painful rash. Find out the first signs and symptoms of shingles, whether you can still go to work and how long it takes to recover. You can do some things at home to help relieve the symptoms of shingles
"Is shingles contagious?
It's not possible to catch shingles from someone with the condition or from someone with chickenpox. However, you can catch chickenpox from someone with shingles if you haven't had chickenpox before.
The blisters that form contain live virus. If a person who has never had chickenpox makes direct contact with an open blister or something with the fluid on it, they can contract the virus and develop chickenpox."
I've read it all the way through. And I'm disagreeing with you specifically.
Doctors do not know everything. There is so much to know that one can't. That is why I went to a source that would know more than either I or even your doctor.I had chicken pox as a kid. And I got the shingles from my dad, immediately after he had them. Or at least my doctor thought so.
The CDC says that a person can get chicken pox from the blisters from shingles on another person. Hey, all I know is that I had chicken pox as a child , then my dad got shingles, which I touched being his caregiver, and then I got shingles. Which went away quickly, I might add. I treated the shingles quickly, or rather my doctor did. They were on my torso, not my face or head or neck. Only one side of my torso, to be more specific.
"The risk of spreading VZV to others is low if you cover the shingles rash. People with shingles cannot spread the virus before their rash blisters appear or after the rash crusts."
Cause and Transmission | CDC
The virus that causes shingles, the varicella zoster virus, is spread through direct contact with fluid from the rash blisters.www.cdc.gov
It didn't affect my father or me to nearly that extent, but 1) we were treated specifically for shingles within the time frame that the meds are effective (I think it's 72 hours- I KNEW I had shingles, probably within 48 hours) and 2) neither my father nor I had them on our face or in our ear. My dad's was on his neck and head however, and he was in a lot of pain initially. So was I, but since he'd just had it, I knew the symptoms and sought treatment immediately.
Whatever. So a person can catch chickenpox (which I know I already had as a child so it wasn't those) from the blisters but not shingles. Sorry, not buying it. It was too strange. I wasn't particularly stressed out and had no other reason(s) for developing shingles, but I had them, immediately after my dad, and they cleared up upon the administration of the meds made specifically for shingles.
You already had the virus in you. Shingles is chickenpox. It is the same virus. When we got chickenpox not all of the viruses died. Shingles is a secondary infection that comes from within. You can catch chickenpox from touching shingles blisters. That is the primary infection. You cannot catch the secondary infection from it.
OK, so you say. But I think the jury's still out on that one, like so many other things. Clearly. Meanwhile, I'll pass on further vaccines, other than the flu shot, which I get every year now, with no ill effects. Oh and I'll stay up to date on my other vaccines such as tetanus and polio and smallpox. So I guess we're good.
What makes you think that the "jury is still out there"? A doctor treats diseases. They are not experts on their causes usually. What expert opinion do you have anything besides a doctor as an authority?
I know I had COVID (after being "vaccinated and boosted" - but I don't consider myself any sort of outlier since so many other people I know also got COVID after being "vaccinated and boosted")) and I believe I got the shingles from my dad, who had them and I was his caregiver. I already had chickenpox as a kid. No other reasons I should have gotten shingles other than my dad's blisters but thankfully it was a very mild case since I was able to start the meds immediately, being very familiar with the symptoms (since my dad had just had shingles too). Plus my doctor verified this. I don't know where you're coming from but that's a pretty expert opinion where I come from.
Stress can cause shingles. Talk with the experts. I am not denying that you had shingles, but according to what I have read you father could not have given them to you. Did you not read the link that I provided?
Yes, I read it - because I read links that people provide. I have also read links that say that the COVID vaccine is 95 percent effective in PREVENTING COVID and yet I don't believe that. Other sources claim that vaccination effectiveness drops over a pretty short amount of time and I do believe that. For instance:
Your second claim is out of context. It does not work as well at prevention for later variants. But it is on the order of 90% effective when it comes to preventing death.
