Fear of homosexuality

[Skreeper]

That's nonsense that people are AFRAID of homosexuals. That's their pet argument to try to diss people who don't agree with their immoral lifestyle.

I was wondering if you have an actual good argument why my "gay lifestyle" is immoral that does not include "because the Bible says so" or "because I think it's icky"

 

[Back2Love]

Why are some of those who believe homosexuality is a sin so afraid of it?

Homosexuality in itself isn't a sin according to - as far as I am aware - any religion, so if we just think about homosexuality in general as a topic or homosexuals as a topic, why does it terrify some people so much?

It isn't the biggest sin, the most harmful sin, the most likely sin... It's one among others.

Where does the extreme fear come from and how could it be reduced among people who belive homosexuality is a sin, if we exclude the idea that the sin could be removed from the list or the people could become less religious on that issue.

It is possible to consider it a sin and even condemn it without feeling extreme fear, discomfort, frustration or anger when the topic is approached.

In Islam the act of sodomy his haram (prohibited). Not even a husband and wife can engage in it, so this is why gay men are severely frowned upon. Of course people collate the act with the person therefore wrongly consider all gays as sodomites. The point is, its the act that should be hated, not the individual, but people dont think about it that deeply.

 

[Martin]

Why are some of those who believe homosexuality is a sin so afraid of it?

Homosexuality in itself isn't a sin according to - as far as I am aware - any religion, so if we just think about homosexuality in general as a topic or homosexuals as a topic, why does it terrify some people so much?

It isn't the biggest sin, the most harmful sin, the most likely sin... It's one among others.

Where does the extreme fear come from and how could it be reduced among people who belive homosexuality is a sin, if we exclude the idea that the sin could be removed from the list or the people could become less religious on that issue.

It is possible to consider it a sin and even condemn it without feeling extreme fear, discomfort, frustration or anger when the topic is approached.

Everyone is a little bit gay, or could be in the right circumstances. That's where the fear comes from. There's also a large dose of predujice, judging people who are different.
Sadly some religious institutions buy into this bigoted nonsense.

 

[JJ50]

Everyone is a little bit gay, or could be in the right circumstances. That's where the fear comes from. There's also a large dose of predujice, judging people who are different.
Sadly some religious institutions buy into this bigoted nonsense.

I support people who are gay as I see nothing wrong in being so, but I am definitely not gay myself.

 

[Martin]

I was wondering if you have an actual good argument why my "gay lifestyle" is immoral that does not include "because the Bible says so" or "because I think it's icky"

There really isn't one from what I can see. It's mostly bigotry dressed up.

 

[Martin]

I support people who are gay as I see nothing wrong in being so, but I am definitely not gay myself.

If you were stuck in a single-sex community for long enough, I'm pretty sure you'd experiment.

 

[JJ50]

If you were stuck in a single-sex community for long enough, I'm pretty sure you'd experiment.

No I wouldn't, sex isn't a big deal where I am concerned.

 

[sojourner]

Attacking the website when you can't defeat the material cited from it. Another inept effort on your part.

One doesn’t have to present an argument against Hitler to be able to assert that he was an evil man ...

 

[sojourner]

If you could see you wouldn't be an anti-Christianity plebe.

Now he resorts to inaccurate name-calling. This is known as the five-year-old “poo-poo head” ploy.

 

[Audie]

Everyone is a little bit gay, or could be in the right circumstances. That's where the fear comes from. There's also a large dose of predujice, judging people who are different.
Sadly some religious institutions buy into this bigoted nonsense.

Too obvious, you'd think, to need mentioning.
I see though that this is most vigorously denied
by certain persons here.
I think Shakespeare had a line to describe this.

 

[Spartan]

One doesn’t have to present an argument against Hitler to be able to assert that he was an evil man ...

Excuses, excuses. Still can't beat the argument so you have to continue your vacuous strawman attacks.

 

[Spartan]

I was wondering if you have an actual good argument why my "gay lifestyle" is immoral that does not include "because the Bible says so" or "because I think it's icky"

I was wondering on what basis the gay lifestyle is considered moral to begin with?

 

[sojourner]

Excuses, excuses. Still can't beat the argument so you have to continue your vacuous strawman attacks.

Nope. Not a straw man. The whole web site is devoted to a non-existent, non-efficacious, destructive, biased therapy, whose premise is fear and wishful thinking. It's not a straw man to simply point out that the page has no credibility in the biblical exegesis dept. A simple, "Yah? So?" is all the rebuttal such a web site qualifies. You need to get some much better sources if you're going to continue to argue this particular point.

Its argument is a non-argument, because it's obvious that the author hasn't done his due diligence in textual criticism. Most scholars recognize that the translated term "homosexual" is a convenience, and not a transliteration. Most reputable biblical anthropologists know that homosexuality as an orientation -- and thereby the term "homosexuality" as it is properly known today -- was an unknown thing when the bible was written. The term cannot, therefore, mean "homosexual" as we understand it today. Paul didn't understand homosexuality the way we do (as a normal human sexual identity). Paul simply thought that all same-sex activity was "unnatural," because he didn't understand what "natural" is for human beings.

I don't think you do, either.

 

[sojourner]

I was wondering on what basis the gay lifestyle is considered moral to begin with?

Are the parties both consenting adults? Is there a commitment to the relationship? Is the coupling an expression of love? Are they married? Then it's a moral lifestyle, homosexual or no. Y'now, like any other normal, moral relationship.

 

[Skreeper]

I was wondering on what basis the gay lifestyle is considered moral to begin with?

It's as moral as any other relationship between twp consenting adults.

As long as it's not detrimental to society or harms individuals why would I consider it immoral?

 

[Spartan]

It's as moral as any other relationship between twp consenting adults.

Adultery is between two consenting adults, and that's immoral as well as illicit gay sex hook ups.

 

[Spartan]

Are the parties both consenting adults? Is there a commitment to the relationship? Is the coupling an expression of love? Are they married? Then it's a moral lifestyle, homosexual or no. Y'now, like any other normal, moral relationship.

There's going to be a whole load of 'consenting adults' who have violated God's moral laws who will be cast into the Lake of Fire at the end.

 

[Spartan]

Nope. Not a straw man. The whole web site is devoted to a non-existent, non-efficacious, destructive, biased therapy, whose premise is fear and wishful thinking. It's not a straw man to simply point out that the page has no credibility in the biblical exegesis dept.

Nonsense. And your pro Sodom and Gomorrah theology is an absolute joke.

 

[Audie]

It's as moral as any other relationship between twp consenting adults.

As long as it's not detrimental to society or harms individuals why would I consider it immoral?

Gay=immoral.

"God" does absolute morality,
so three is no argument, no appeal.

I have heard about that.

 

[sojourner]

There's going to be a whole load of 'consenting adults' who have violated God's moral laws who will be cast into the Lake of Fire at the end.

That's very nice.

1) If both adults agree, it's consent. Consent is legal, and it's moral, given the other criteria I mentioned.
2a) There is no "end," when God is eternal.
2b) There is no "Lake of Fire," unless you're talking about Lake Eerie from about 50 years ago. And I don't think God's going to dump anyone there.

IDK why you're blowing fantasy up our pants here. And I can't figure out what hate, disdain, or fear you must harbor to literally believe and defend these fantasies that 1) God hates part of God's creation so much that God would do that, and 2) that you simply can't live and let live, where others sex lives are concerned. It must keep you up nights -- no pun intended.