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Few Observations

Kirran

Premium Member
And his supporters heartfully support that decision? Was he being a regular politician or a man of the people?

He was doing what he thought best for the country. I, too, would have supported Hillary over Trump, although she was pretty bad too.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
You didn't see that the billionaire business tycoon has business and foreign ties?

He's a egotist, His business is all that matter. Most of the Billionare Tycoon didn't like to associate with him. He was not consider a made billionaire but an inherited one. Name some of the Foreign ties that he has that are important to him that Hillary didn't have.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
And his supporters heartfully support that decision?
He understood that if he divided the voters on the left, it was political suicide for the issues he stood for when the election came around. He did what he thought was best with what he had.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
He was doing what he thought best for the country. I, too, would have supported Hillary over Trump, although she was pretty bad too.

The country voted for Trump so how do you decide what's best for the country and more importantly how did he decide that she was best. Obviously a lot of people felt differently and even after his decision the bulk of his supports thought he was wrong.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
He's a egotist, His business is all that matter. Most of the Billionare Tycoon didn't like to associate with him. He was not consider a made billionaire but an inherited one. Name some of the Foreign ties that he has that are important to him that Hillary didn't have.

Does Trump the businessman have business ties? Are any of those businesses in foreign countries?

This is not rocket science.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
He understood that if he divided the voters on the left, it was political suicide for the issues he stood for when the election came around. He did what he thought was best with what he had.

Profiles in courage a really good book. JFK found worthy people would stand their ground and support their cause even if it meant political suicide
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Of importance, who are they, its not Rocket Science please name a few.

In his most recent financial disclosures, Trump listed 144 individual companies that have had dealings in at least 25 countries in Asia, Europe, Africa, South America and North America, among other companies with regional international interests, according to a CNN review.

Trump's foreign business interests: 144 companies in 25 countries - CNNPolitics.com

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The Trump Organization - Wikipedia

    • Elite Tower, Ramat Gan, Israel was a planned commercial real estate development slated to be the tallest building in Israel. Called the Trump Plaza Tower, Trump shelved the plans in 2007, when the site was sold on to Azorim for NIS 306.5 million.[81][82] Trump purchased the site for $44 million.[83]
    • Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake, West Java, Indonesia. Trump Hotels will be involved with the 700-hectare Lido Lake development, 1 hour from Bandung, Indonesia including a six-star luxury resort, 18-hole signature Ernie Els championship golf course, elite Lifestyle Country Club & Spa as well as a high-end residential offering including luxury villas and condominiums. The project will be the first of its kind in Asia and the first in Islam-majority country.[84]
    • Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, Vancouver. A skyscraper under construction in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The 63-story, 188-metre-high (617 ft), mixed-use tower is located at 1133 West Georgia Street, and has been completed in 2016. Trump Vancouver is the second tallest building in the city, after the Shangri-La tower located across West Georgia Street.
    • Trump Towers Istanbul, Istanbul[85]

Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama.

Public stock investments within his portfolio include General Electric, Chevron, UPS, Coca-Cola, Home Depot, Comcast, Sanofi, Ford, ConocoPhillips, Energy Transfer Partners, Altera, Verizon Communications, Procter & Gamble, Bank of America, Nike, Google, Apple Inc., Philip Morris, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, Whole Foods, Intel, IBM, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Johnson & Johnson, Caterpillar, Kinder Morgan, AT&T and Facebook.[90][93][94] He has at least $78 million invested in a variety of paper assets such as stocks, bonds, mutual funds, private equity funds, fund of funds, and hedge funds.[95] His financial market investment accounts are kept at JPMorgan, Barclays, Deutsche Bank and Oppenheimer.[93][96] His Barclays account includes investments in 32 entities and cash worth between $49,021 and $396,001 and having stock in two accounts at Deutsche Bank that contain cash, treasury bills, and stock in 173 entities. His investment account with Oppenheimer contains cash and has 31 positions worth between $10,380,031 and $33,301,000. His account with JPMorgan contains stock in 60 firms valued between $1,251,008 and $2,617,000.[97]

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. This guy prob. has more business ties than any other president in history.

Your statement was just plain silly.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Senator sanders was not one of the choices and he supported Hillary
Yeah, after the DNC literally stole the election from him. And yet he never turned his back on us. He "supported" Hilliary only in opposition of Trump; conditional to his support was for her to adopt and implement several of his positions.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Fixed that for you.

You understand the point is not the Trump is bad, it is that it is very possible the Hillary being elected could of created a worse president in 4 years. What was Hillary going to do for the Trump supporters to make their lives better.

Would you like a Ted Cruz type President but with Political support. Would you like a Trump like president in 4 years with popular support. This is the best outcome available unless you actually believe Hillary would have brought the country together. She couldn't do it 8 years ago and she couldn't do it this election. How would she have done it if she won.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
What was Hillary going to do for the Trump supporters to make their lives better.
What is trump going to do for us? Stick us with 20% higher products from Mexico, and unfair taxes to pay for a [REDACTED] wall for generations to come? Stick us with officials who are either immensely and dangerously biased or have no clue how to do their job? Launch us into war with global superpowers over a Twitter pissing-match?

Some president.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
There needs to be a new fallacy similar to Godwins Law. Except instead of it relating to Hitler it would read "On a long enough timeline, Hillary will enter any political discussion as supporters of Trump seek to create a false equivalency."
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
What is trump going to do for us? Stick us with 20% higher products from Mexico, and unfair taxes to pay for a [REDACTED] wall for generations to come? Stick us with officials who are either immensely and dangerously biased or have no clue how to do their job? Launch us into war with global superpowers over a Twitter pissing-match?

Some president.

What Trump do.

If successful make America Great again.
If unsuccessful pull all Americans together again for the Next Election.

Sometimes you need to go through hardships to make a better future. Trump will be an example either way.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What worries me more than the executive orders is the fact Trump wanted immigrants who are permanent residents and already here deported. They are American citizens and entitled to due process. It is not a crime to be from another country, and it's ignoring that ISIS has focused more on getting those who are already here and feeling marginalized to act on their behalf rather than sending people here. And of course what is probably the largest financer, supporter, and trainer of terrorist, Saudi Arabia, is not on that list. If we ever want to get serious about the Middle East, we need to end our dependence on oil and end our alliance with Saudi Arabia.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What Trump do.

If successful make America Great again.
If unsuccessful pull all Americans together again for the Next Election.

Sometimes you need to go through hardships to make a better future. Trump will be an example either way.
Making America "great" does not include violating some of our most treasured and cherished features that have always made us America.
Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
 

habiru

Active Member
What worries me more than the executive orders is the fact Trump wanted immigrants who are permanent residents and already here deported. They are American citizens and entitled to due process. It is not a crime to be from another country, and it's ignoring that ISIS has focused more on getting those who are already here and feeling marginalized to act on their behalf rather than sending people here. And of course what is probably the largest financer, supporter, and trainer of terrorist, Saudi Arabia, is not on that list. If we ever want to get serious about the Middle East, we need to end our dependence on oil and end our alliance with Saudi Arabia.
Nope, that is not true at all. They just recently vetted a woman's mother that was detained at the airport, just to please the crowd. The woman herself was a immigrant as well. And so, why wasn't she and her mother was thrown back on the plane?
Hillary's supporters needs to stop keeping up with the Kardashians and start searching for the truth.
 
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