Few reasons why Muslims should not celebrate "New Year"

[Augustus]

You are ignorant. You cant even understand the meaning of this hadith.

Yes oh wise sheik, everyone is ignorant except you. Especially the hundreds of millions of Muslims you just takfir-ed

Do you consider questioning the faith of millions of Muslims you have never met is 'in the spirit of Islam'?

 

[TawheedIsTheOnlyWay]

Yes oh wise sheik, everyone is ignorant except you. Especially the hundreds of millions of Muslims you just takfir-ed

Do you consider questioning the faith of millions of Muslims you have never met is 'in the spirit of Islam'?

I never made takfeer on another Muslim, stop lying. A Muslim is the one who submits to Islam. Those who celebrate Christmas and other pagan holidays are not the ones who submit to Islam, rather they are the ones who submit to falsehood. Someone who calls himself a Muslim but celebrates christmas or prostrates to an idol is no longer a Muslim.

And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], "Worship Allah and avoid false gods." 16:36

 

[LuisDantas]

1.) As Muslims we have our own Hijri calendar, we must reject gregorian calendar because it is not from Islam. The gregorian calendar was made by Pope Gregory (a pagan worshipper). According to our hijri calendar the new year actually begins on the first of Muharram.

Calendars are just conventions to register dates. They do not serve a moral or ethical purpose.

It seems to me that it comes down to how willing Muslims will be to celebrate with non-Muslims.

2.) On such a day majority of people listen to music, drink alcohol and commit adultery.
This is a great evil and a Muslim should stay away from such things.

I don`t see the problem with listening to music, and I don`t think adultery or even alcohol usage rise very much due to the commemorations of New Year`s Eve.

3.) It is against the spirit of Islam.

How so?

4.) What exactly is there to celebrate?

For many people it is a convenient time to remind ourselves to keep some perspective, show gratitude for our joys and gifts, and a measure of reconsideration for our goals for the future.

Thousands of Muslims are dying and starving to death in Africa, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq...etc and you want to enjoy your life?

Are people not expected to want to enjoy their lives, regardless of how much grief, sorrow or compassion they may see fit to have for others?

Let them eat and enjoy themselves and be diverted by [false] hope, for they are going to know. 15:3

What would make hopes for a happy new year "false"?

 

[Augustus]

I never made takfeer on another Muslim, stop lying. A Muslim is the one who submits to Islam. Those who celebrate Christmas and other pagan holidays are not the ones who submit to Islam, rather they are the ones who submit to falsehood. Someone who calls himself a Muslim but celebrates christmas or prostrates to an idol is no longer a Muslim.

Denies making takfir while making takfir Well played sir, I like the cut of your jib

 

[sun rise]

We only reject innovations in religion and worship.

The calendar has nothing to do with religion and worship. But if you want to make that point, then there are lots of things that are different between secular culture and religion and you need to reject them all.

 

[YmirGF]

You dont know what it means to be a Muslim. You never understood tawheed (the oneness of God).
You are ignorant and arrogant.

On a friendly note, @Augustus is perhaps the most knowledgeable person (about Islam) I have come across outside academia. You might want to choose your battles more wisely.

 

[sun rise]

I never made takfeer on another Muslim, stop lying. A Muslim is the one who submits to Islam. Those who celebrate Christmas and other pagan holidays are not the ones who submit to Islam, rather they are the ones who submit to falsehood. Someone who calls himself a Muslim but celebrates christmas or prostrates to an idol is no longer a Muslim.

And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], "Worship Allah and avoid false gods." 16:36

To make a false accusation that Christians who celebrate the birth of the Christ are pagans is against Islam because they are "people of the book" and there are many Hadith about respecting Christians.

 

[YmirGF]

To make a false accusation that Christians who celebrate the birth of the Christ are pagans is against Islam because they are "people of the book" and there are many Hadith about respecting Christians.

The respect is pretty thin, at best, however.

 

[TawheedIsTheOnlyWay]

To make a false accusation that Christians who celebrate the birth of the Christ are pagans is against Islam because they are "people of the book" and there are many Hadith about respecting Christians.

They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. 5:73

And say, "Praise to Allah , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification." 17:111

Who are the people of the book?
Who are Ahlul Kitab( The people of the book) - islamqa.info

 

[Brickjectivity]

They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. 5:73

And say, "Praise to Allah , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification." 17:111

Who are the people of the book?
Who are Ahlul Kitab( The people of the book) - islamqa.info

All of this is from over a thousand years ago. I think I have an idea of how it works. So many people have died and gone to hell, perhaps for the purpose of showing what Muslims deserve if it were not for the mercy. To demonstrate the mercy and to properly glorify requires that idolaters calling themselves Christians be condemned. Otherwise why would Muhammad and Jesus not return for so long.

 

[oldbadger]

..........................
.................................. According to our hijri calendar the new year actually begins on the first of Muharram.

OK.............

2.) On such a day majority of people listen to music, drink alcohol and commit adultery.
........................

Fair enough........... I won't judge them for that. But we don't.

3.) It is against the spirit of Islam.

Fair enough..........

4.) What exactly is there to celebrate?
Thousands of Muslims are dying and starving to death in Africa, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq...etc and you want to enjoy your life?

And Iran, it seems. There are demonstrations all over Iran at this time. Why do Muslims kill Muslims just because they have a different perception of Islam? They are murdering Shi'ite Muslims in their meeting places in Afghanistan at this very time.

Let them eat and enjoy themselves and be diverted by [false] hope, for they are going to know. 15:3

Know what..... eh? What are we going to know?

 

[oldbadger]

Jazakallahu'khair

Surely..... May God reward him with goodness, but only if he ceases from self-righteous judgement of other cultures, ways, religions, etc.

Where I live there are laws to protect all religions, cultures, ways etc and we won't allow folks to interfer with other's religions.

 

[oldbadger]

The same one who say Iranians are not muslims due to their nationality? ..............

Sunni Muslims from all over the World say that most Iranians are not Muslims. Not just Saudis.

Allah Ta'ala is innocent from those who kill in his name, For Allah forbid such evil acts. Not only this but Allah Ta'ala has forbid the act of suicide.

Truly.
I often read that most Islamic Terrorism is supported by Saudi Arabia and other Sunni groups. Or so I read.......

So why would the OP want to rant at us folks who support our local Muslim communities and are against terrorist actions?

 

[oldbadger]

.................... Those who celebrate new year are mostly those who dont practice Islam. No true Muslim would ever celebrate such filth.

You seem to have been brainwashed into believing that we all 'party' and commit adultery on New Year.

Instead of cementing all that indoctrination inside yourself, why don't you investigate for yourself?

 

[TawheedIsTheOnlyWay]

OK.............


Fair enough........... I won't judge them for that. But we don't.


Fair enough..........


And Iran, it seems. There are demonstrations all over Iran at this time. Why do Muslims kill Muslims just because they have a different perception of Islam? They are murdering Shi'ite Muslims in their meeting places in Afghanistan at this very time.


Know what..... eh? What are we going to know?

It's funny how you always mention Muslims killing Muslims, but you never mention Americans & Europeans who airstrike thousands of Muslim civillians and rape innocent women and children. You should have mentioned this.

 

[oldbadger]

The prophet pbuh said whoever imitates a people is one of them.
A Muslim is not allowed to imitate the nonbelievers in their festivals.

Yeah, but which Muslims are true Muslims?
Many Muslims won't accept you are Muslim, whichever sect of Islam you might belong to.

 

[oldbadger]

It's funny how you always mention Muslims killing Muslims, but you never mention Americans & Europeans who airstrike thousands of Muslim civillians and rape innocent women and children. You should have mentioned this.

We've been involved in wars, some we thought were right, some we thought were wrong. But when exactly were we raping thousands of women and children?

Just now it's Muslims killing Muslims, yes?
Read your OP.

 

[oldbadger]

You are ignorant. You cant even understand the meaning of this hadith.

Ah....... so you are a Shia Muslim, yes?
Do you live in Iran?
Why are the Iranian people demonstrating so much, just now? Are they upset with the Theocracy there?

 

[oldbadger]

You dont know what it means to be a Muslim. You never understood tawheed (the oneness of God).
You are ignorant and arrogant.

Where I live Muslims would never say anything so insulting, contentious, confrontational and high conflict as that. Not to anybody.

And I've never read anything so aggressive on RF in a very long time.

 

[oldbadger]

They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. 5:73

Oh I don't think so....... They don't talk about Allah but his third prophet Muhammud.............. true? Indeed there are many many scores of thousands in, say, Iran who say that Muhammad is the third of four. ??