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Flat Earth in the Holy Bible!

jtartar

Well-Known Member
Hi,

Does the bible mention that earth is flat? please provide the verse if it was mentioned.

By the way, i hope you won't go on the defense. I know many people mock Christianity for believing that earth is flat but i'm asking this because i'm really considering it might actually be correct.

So, i hope you will answer me based on the bible, not what you personally believe in.

Thank you.

TashaN,
One of the many reasons to believe that The Bible is positively, The Word of God is; there are many things that are recorded in the Bible that no human knew, when the Bible was written.
Consider what the Bible says about the information contained within it, 2Tim 3:16,17, notice all scripture is inspired by God, both Hebrew and Greek Scripture, 2Pet 1:20,21, Notice that God's Holy Spirit mDe sure that all scripture is accurate. At the time that scripture wa written it was completely accurate, and completely understandable to contemporary readers. Over time a few inaccuracies were certain to be introduced into the Bible, because it is impossible for a person to copy the Bible without making a mistake. These mistakes are easy to find with a comparison of Bible translations. Today there are very few mistakes in God's word, and the mistakes do not change God's message to mankind.
The Bible was not written as a Science text book, but when something concerning science is recorded it is always accurate.
As to the flat earth. Although there have been many things written about the earth, such as it is held on the back of a giant, standing on a turtle swimming on an ocean, you NEVER find superstitions or myths found in God's word.
The Bible states that the earth is circular, a globe, and hanging on nothing, Job 26:7,10, Isa 40:22.
The bible uses terms such as, the ends of the earth, and, the four corners of the earth. Think though, we say the same terms today, in writing and speech, and we surely know the earth is not flat, or square, Isa 40:28, Rev 7:1.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
TashaN,
One of the many reasons to believe that The Bible is positively, The Word of God is; there are many things that are recorded in the Bible that no human knew, when the Bible was written.
Consider what the Bible says about the information contained within it, 2Tim 3:16,17, notice all scripture is inspired by God, both Hebrew and Greek Scripture, 2Pet 1:20,21, Notice that God's Holy Spirit mDe sure that all scripture is accurate. At the time that scripture wa written it was completely accurate, and completely understandable to contemporary readers. Over time a few inaccuracies were certain to be introduced into the Bible, because it is impossible for a person to copy the Bible without making a mistake. These mistakes are easy to find with a comparison of Bible translations. Today there are very few mistakes in God's word, and the mistakes do not change God's message to mankind.
The Bible was not written as a Science text book, but when something concerning science is recorded it is always accurate.
As to the flat earth. Although there have been many things written about the earth, such as it is held on the back of a giant, standing on a turtle swimming on an ocean, you NEVER find superstitions or myths found in God's word.
The Bible states that the earth is circular, a globe, and hanging on nothing, Job 26:7,10, Isa 40:22.
The bible uses terms such as, the ends of the earth, and, the four corners of the earth. Think though, we say the same terms today, in writing and speech, and we surely know the earth is not flat, or square, Isa 40:28, Rev 7:1.
This is nothing but circular reasoning. "The Bible is the word of God because it is a collection of scriptures and scriptures were all inspired by God." That doesn't prove anything.
 

atpollard

Active Member
This is nothing but circular reasoning. "The Bible is the word of God because it is a collection of scriptures and scriptures were all inspired by God." That doesn't prove anything.
But he does have a valid point that we still talk about 'the far corners of the Earth' without believing that the Earth is square.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
But he does have a valid point that we still talk about 'the far corners of the Earth' without believing that the Earth is square.
I agree, it's a point. I am not very concerned with "the far corners of the earth" thing, because it certainly doesn't say that the earth is spherical. If they described it as such, which was certainly possible with their vocabulary, then I would be impressed.

I was referring only to his line of reasoning that the scriptures are the word of God or inpired by him.
 

atpollard

Active Member
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)
Whoa there, I cry foul! ;)

Daniel 4:11 is describing a dream!
You don't get to knock Scripture because some foreign King dreamed of a flat Earth.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
TashaN,
One of the many reasons to believe that The Bible is positively, The Word of God is; there are many things that are recorded in the Bible that no human knew, when the Bible was written.
Consider what the Bible says about the information contained within it, 2Tim 3:16,17, notice all scripture is inspired by God, both Hebrew and Greek Scripture, 2Pet 1:20,21, Notice that God's Holy Spirit mDe sure that all scripture is accurate. At the time that scripture wa written it was completely accurate, and completely understandable to contemporary readers. Over time a few inaccuracies were certain to be introduced into the Bible, because it is impossible for a person to copy the Bible without making a mistake. These mistakes are easy to find with a comparison of Bible translations. Today there are very few mistakes in God's word, and the mistakes do not change God's message to mankind.
The Bible was not written as a Science text book, but when something concerning science is recorded it is always accurate.
As to the flat earth. Although there have been many things written about the earth, such as it is held on the back of a giant, standing on a turtle swimming on an ocean, you NEVER find superstitions or myths found in God's word.
The Bible states that the earth is circular, a globe, and hanging on nothing, Job 26:7,10, Isa 40:22.

The bible uses terms such as, the ends of the earth, and, the four corners of the earth. Think though, we say the same terms today, in writing and speech, and we surely know the earth is not flat, or square, Isa 40:28, Rev 7:1.

A circle is not a sphere.

The Bible specifically says the earth is a scribed circle, - thus a flat pancake shape.
 
while before the flood the earth was one huge land mass and flat
The bible also says when Jesus returns when the last humans are allowed to enter this new kingdom the earth will have returned to it original format one land mass
The only difference from the original (before the flood) it will rain, whereas before the flood it never rained it had what we call a canopy effect with water overhead as a canopy protecting from the sun rays

As Jesus says any government that does not come to Jerusalem each year, that kingdom will have it's rainfall withheld. until they do. I'm not sure if this just means that King or that everyone must come to Jerusalem each year, which would be possible as anyone could travel by land from anywhere to Jerusalem.
As near as I can make out the land will be basicily flat again although Mount Olive after it splits in two a river will flow through the valley of these two Mounts to the Mediterranean Sea and Jerusalem will become a sea port.
 

atpollard

Active Member
while before the flood the earth was one huge land mass and flat
The bible also says when Jesus returns when the last humans are allowed to enter this new kingdom the earth will have returned to it original format one land mass
The only difference from the original (before the flood) it will rain, whereas before the flood it never rained it had what we call a canopy effect with water overhead as a canopy protecting from the sun rays

As Jesus says any government that does not come to Jerusalem each year, that kingdom will have it's rainfall withheld. until they do. I'm not sure if this just means that King or that everyone must come to Jerusalem each year, which would be possible as anyone could travel by land from anywhere to Jerusalem.
As near as I can make out the land will be basicily flat again although Mount Olive after it splits in two a river will flow through the valley of these two Mounts to the Mediterranean Sea and Jerusalem will become a sea port.
Please don't take this as an attack, but where does it say any of that?
 

kepha31

Active Member
For over five hundred years humanity has believed the "round Earth" teachings of Efimovich and his followers. But all hope is not lost. For through all that time, a small but diligent band of individuals have preserved the knowledge of our planet's true shape. And now, after centuries in the Dark Ages, we believe that mankind as a whole is once again ready to embrace the truth that has forever been the Flat Earth Society. Using whatever means are deemed necessary and relying heavily on a callous disregard for the lives and well-being of our members, we have slowly but steadily been spreading the news.

But why? Why do we say the Earth is flat, when the vast majority says otherwise? Because we know the truth.
The Flat Earth Society -- Home

:D
 
Perhaps if you read the book of 'Revelation of Jesus Christ' you might find your answers, zero in on the last 6 or so chapters
 

atpollard

Active Member
Perhaps if you read the book of 'Revelation of Jesus Christ' you might find your answers, zero in on the last 6 or so chapters
You are kidding, right?

Heck, I read scripture more literally than about 90% of the population ... if it isn't obviously poetic, then I am going to start from the assumption that it was literal ... Abraham (literal), Job (literal), Moses (literal), The Word/Jesus was God (literal) ... but Revelation is a Vision/Dream.

In case it wasn't clear enough, John even begins the book by telling us that this was a vision.
You do know that the churches are not literally lamp stands? It was a metaphor. We are supposed to be light to the world, so the churches are depicted as lamp stands in his vision. (Rev ch. 1 -3)

I'll go and reread the last 6 chapters of Revelation (I like the way the story ends), but I think that building an assumption of the physical structure of a future reality on a dream (and nothing more) is a little wobbly as a foundation.
 

atpollard

Active Member
And who wrote those words ?
I bet it wasn't Jesus !
~
'mud
Technically, even the Book of Revelation itself tells you that, sort of ... it was a vision to John on the island of Patmos where he is told what to write and he (presumably) writes what he was told.
So you would be half right. :) [Taking the text at face value, the post resurrection Jesus said some of it and John wrote down what Jesus said and what John saw.]
 

atpollard

Active Member
The only difference from the original (before the flood) it will rain,
As Jesus says any government that does not come to Jerusalem each year, that kingdom will have it's rainfall withheld until they do.
I can see where you get most of your claims from (mostly Rev 21-22), but I did not see a source for this part in Revelation chapter 17-22.
Can you point me to a chapter and verse on rain and kingdoms?
 
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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
OK... I will delete any contemptible remarks.
Sorry about the attempt to discuss the facts.
~
'mud
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

I think it might be wise to acknowledge that this was a dream, not the description of anything in reality. This tree was figuratively depicting the might of the Babylonian kingdom, which was a world power at the time. Daniel interpreted the dream.

Daniel 4:19-22.....“Then Daniel, whose name is Belteshazzar, was appalled for a while as his thoughts alarmed him. The king responded and said, ‘Belteshazzar, do not let the dream or its interpretation alarm you.’ Belteshazzar replied, ‘My lord, if only the dream applied to those who hate you and its interpretation to your adversaries! The tree that you saw, which became large and grew strong, whose height reached to the sky and was visible to all the earth and whose foliage was beautiful and its fruit abundant, and in which was food for all, under which the beasts of the field dwelt and in whose branches the birds of the sky lodged— it is you, O king; for you have become great and grown strong, and your majesty has become great and reached to the sky and your dominion to the end of the earth." (NASB)
 
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JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
There is one incident that comes to mind which might imply a flat Earth. When Satan carried Jesus up on top of a mountain, it was said that they were able to see all the kingdoms on Earth. I don't see how that would work on a spherical Earth, but it could on a flat Earth. That is, if we take "all" the kingdoms as literal.

Luke 4:5-7...."And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore if You worship before me, it shall all be Yours.” (NASB)

This was in all probability a vision of all the kingdoms of the earth. We are speaking about a supernatural being with supernatural abilities. I am sure that the pre-human Jesus, who was responsible for creation had no doubts about the earth being spherical....a fact that is clearly obvious from a non-earthly viewpoint.
 
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