PureX
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Unqualified crooked judges that lied about their biased agenda and cried and threw hissy-fits to get past the vetting process. And that are now showing us all their true colors.
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Florida governor DeSantis says recreational pot and abortion are too radical
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Subduction Zone
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Do you seriously think that that marijuana is not heavily taxed? In Washington state there is still an illegal weed trade due to the very high taxes on legal marijuana. There is a 37% tax rate on marijuana and marijuana products. Then there is a retail sales tax added to that total. That averages around ten percent. So ten dollars worth of pot costs fifteen bucks once all taxes are accounted for.
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This is one thing that I have always thought - that no matter as to how recreational drugs might be legalised, there will most likely always be illegal trade in such because they can be made cheaper and bypassing any regulations. Hence why we still might have just as many problems.
Pot is legal here. Pot and tobacco are treated roughly the same: it isn't available in as many stores as cigarettes, but both are heavily taxed and if you're in a place where you can't smoke cigarettes, you can't smoke pot either.
That being said, the overall health implications of marijuana are way less than tobacco, since usage is way lower for pot than for tobacco. "Three pack a day" pot smokers aren't really a thing.
I don't hear about it as much any more, but when I was in my teens and 20s, there was a lot of news coverage about black market cigarettes being smuggled into Canada, mostly from the US.
There was even some violence as different gangs tried to control the illegal cigarette trade.
Clizby Wampuscat
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So you agree the supreme court was not stacked and they did not ban abortion.
PureX
Veteran Member
Republican politicians promised their idiot base that they would stack the courts with biased "conservative" judges that would ban abortion and restore prayer in public schools and ostracize the queers. And this is exactly what we are seeing them doing.
Clizby Wampuscat
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Not one court has banned abortion, nowhere is there forced prayer in schools and not teaching adult subjects to 2nd graders is not ostracizing queers.
The overturning of Roe v. Wade was an effective abortion ban in several states.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
The use of "effective" here means the supreme court did not ban abortion. Saying they did is wrong. State legislatures banned abortion is some states. Blame them.
By "effective," I was talking about the states that had abortion bans after 6 weeks on the books. The Supreme Court ruling had the direct effect of implementing these rules, which are effectively abortion bans.
The Supreme Court ruling also fully banned abortion in West Virginia.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
And the Zombie resurrection of the Comstock act is the next play.
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New York State Cigarette Tax Just Went Up To $5.35 A Pack—The Highest In The Nation
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Like I said, not false equivalence. Try again.
Yah, nah. I'm good. I'm not interested in following you down the field as you continually move the goalposts down step by step
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's not moving goal posts when stating existing facts.
PureX
Veteran Member
They'll keep at it until they can criminalize anything to do with abortion. Same goes for homosexuality. Prayer in public schools and buildings will be mandatory. They're on a mission from God and the republican party (that wants to BE God).
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
No, the states did that. No where is the Dobbs decision does it ban anything that I read.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Ok, you agree then that this has not happened yet.
Alien826
No religious beliefs
Not directly, no. It did allow a 15-week abortion ban to take effect, and opened the door for many, in some cases more restrictive, laws to become the law in individual states.
If a gang invades your house to rob you, the person who only unlocked the door for them but did not himself steal anything, would be guilty of conspiracy, at least. I'm not sure why you are drawing this fine distinction. This SCOTUS will go down in history as that which allowed States to ban abortion and possibly a GOP government to do so Federally some time.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
I agree.
The decision allowed states to ban abortion, but it did not ban abortion. It said it was not a constitutionally protected right and it should be left up to the states. If a government bans abortion nationally in the future then it is going against the ruling of the Dobbs decision.