For the dismally ignorant

[Revoltingest]

I don't know. My wife says I smell pretty good

She's being kind.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't see how genetics makes us the same as gorillas and chimpanzees. DNA functions of eyes that are the same between birds and apes don't make them equal

There are many ways to categorize & organize lifeforms.
Once, it was just based upon physical traits we could observe.
Now we have genetics to see new organization.
The latter has led to changes in how we see things.
We aren't identical to chimps.
But our genetic similarity is greater than our physical similarity.

 

[Kenny]

There are many ways to categorize & organize lifeforms.
Once, it was just based upon physical traits we could observe.
Now we have genetics to see new organization.
The latter has led to changes in how we see things.
We aren't identical to chimps.
But our genetic similarity is greater than our physical similarity.

I think my point was that. Genetics affect our physical looks and functions. We do tend to try to group things together for study sake.

At one point, a bat was a bird because it flew in the air. (one way of grouping - not wrong, just different). Later we decided that other factors were important and we regrouped it (not wrong, just different). Like the platypus, we make a decision for study sake.

My position is simply that ultimately we are quite different than the rest of the animal kingdom. That difference puts us in a different category even though genetics says we all have similarities in the functions of eyes, nose, ears, extremities et al.

 

[ChristineM]

I don't see how genetics makes us the same as gorillas and chimpanzees. DNA functions of eyes that are the same between birds and apes don't make them equal

Try replacing an ape eye with s bird eye.

 

[Secret Chief]

I know that man has determined what a human kind is.

For an example... man has determined that a platypus is a mammal yet has so many features that are not. So man said, "We have decided it is a mammal for the following reasons..." and then patted themselves on the back saying to each other "Your are right!".

I see mankind as a category all of its own.

Good job you're not a science teacher then.

 

[Kenny]

Try replacing an ape eye with s bird eye.

Try replacing an ape's liver with a human liver. Thank you for validating my position?

 

[Kenny]

Good job you're not a science teacher then.

I do have a brain.

 

[ChristineM]

Try replacing an ape's liver with a human liver. Thank you for validating my position?

So bird eyes and mammal eyed are not the same at all, why did you say they were?

Oh, by the way...
A brief history of cross-species organ transplantation - PMC - NCBI

 

[Secret Chief]

I do have a brain.

Yes but. Oh never mind. All the science teachers in the world are wrong then.
Coincidentally I was in a science class last month when this topic was uncontroversially explained. You'd have been dragging your child out of the lesson presumably.

 

[Kenny]

So not the same at all, why did you say they were?

Are there genetically similar (not equal)?

 

[Kenny]

Yes but. Oh never mind. All the science teachers in the world are wrong then.

Where did you get that?

 

[Secret Chief]

Where did you get that?

See my edited post.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

'Excess breeders'? LOL
Never been called that before, but I suppose I might fit your category...how much is too much in your estimation?

As someone with 16 half brothers and sisters, I think both of my parents might be put in that category!

 

[ChristineM]

Are there genetically similar (not equal)?

Well done. Did you see my edit? I'll post it again.

A brief history of cross-species organ transplantation - PMC - NCBI

Note a chimp heart, not a birds heart

 

[Revoltingest]

I think my point was that. Genetics affect our physical looks and functions. We do tend to try to group things together for study sake.

At one point, a bat was a bird because it flew in the air. (one way of grouping - not wrong, just different). Later we decided that other factors were important and we regrouped it (not wrong, just different). Like the platypus, we make a decision for study sake.

My position is simply that ultimately we are quite different than the rest of the animal kingdom. That difference puts us in a different category even though genetics says we all have similarities in the functions of eyes, nose, ears, extremities et al.

It appears lately that seeing our similarity is
more useful than putting ourselves on a pedestal.

 

[Alien826]

How old was that Christian fundie? Probably way past the point where they could have been educated.

Mid thirties at a guess. They are resisting all attempts to educate their children unfortunately.

 

[icehorse]

Mammals are uniquely mammals.
Reptiles are uniquely reptiles
Birds are uniquely birds
Humans are uniquely humans

IMV

You're mixing up basic biology. Remember the mnemonic: Keep poor cows on fattening green stuff = kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species.

When classifying creatures like this one ought not conflate kingdom comparisons with more specialized classifications like family or species

 

[Secret Chief]

You're mixing up basic biology. Remember the mnemonic: Keep poor cows on fattening green stuff = kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species.

Ooh that's new to me. Heard another one today: Never eat Shredded Wheat. (Think geography)

 

[Revoltingest]

Keep poor cows on fattening green stuff = kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species.

In Revoltistan, we use a version that includes "Domain".
Definitely Keep Penis Covered On Festivus Gala Socials

 

[Mock Turtle]

This bunch have heard about alcohol but have been kicked out of the pub for being underage:

And this one has read this thread;