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For those who think that prophet Mohammad was a pedophile

Kirran

Kirran

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Premium Member
RitalinOD said:
In the grand scheme of things, it's largely moot, however, the definition is simply "Sexual attraction to children". More technically, prepubescent children. That's it. Nothing else. There are no qualifiers such as only, primarily, etc.
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As far as clinical diagnosis etc goes, there are precisely such qualifiers.

http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/en/GRNBOOK.pdf

"A persistent or a predominant preference for sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children"
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
icehorse said:
I have to largely repeat what was said earlier in this thread. In 2016/2017 it doesn't matter whether it really happened. What REALLY MATTERS is that millions and millions of Muslims *think* it happened, and they therefore *think* it's a good idea.
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How many millions are married to children?
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
Thanda said:
I disagree. Firstly we don't know for sure the exact age of this Aisha lady. Secondly, we have no idea what the moral age is to marry and have sex. That is, from a Islamic perspective, we don't know what Allah believes the moral age is to get married. Therefore what is it that Muslims actually need to defend about Mohammed? What law of Allah has he broken? How has he sinned? By all accounts, whatever her age really was, Mohammed neither broke the law of the land nor the law of his God. To prove there is an issue with what Mohammed did, his critics will have to 1) prove beyond reasonable doubt what her age was at which she married him but more particularly when he consummated the marriage with her and 2) show that his need and right to marry her (and her to marry him) at that age was outweighed by the damage he did to her as a result of his marriage to her and the consummation.
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Nonsense. We do know. Not an exact age, but signs of an age. Its there in the quran.
 
Sapiens

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Idiots are those who believe in winged horses yet deny that, by today's standards, Mohammad (as the tale is told) was a pedophile.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Akivah said:
Is this your standard of proof? That in order to make the claim that Muhammad had sex with Aisha when she was a child, the claimer must have personally witnessed it?
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Do you have evidence that the prophet used to love having sex with children?
In the OP the prophet didn't marry in early age, so he wasn't interested in women,
his first marriage was to an old woman and she was a widow, he stayed with her
for 25 years, will a pedophile wait till age 50 to have sex with a child and is it enough
for him one child while he can get as much as he wants?

That is my rational thinking, what's yours?
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Kirran said:
By the same logic - did you see Muhammad talking to Jibrail? Did you see him preaching Islam? Did you see him doing anything tradition upholds he did? If not, well, I guess he didn't do them.
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Do you see? you said it.
Do you believe that Jibril spoke to Mohammad? if not then why you believe
that he loves having sex with children? I'm asking you the same question that you asked me.
 
C

columbus

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Akivah said:
The difference is that Jews and Christians are not actively carrying out the parts of their religions which modern ethics reject, but Muslims are.
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Oh yes they are. From the Zionists supporters of Middle East conflicts(many many of which are Christians) to parents who teach their children awful and false things about homosexuality to mega-rich Christian celebrities to.....
Well, the list of dreadful behavior is really long. So don't tell me that Christians stick strictly to modern ethics. I live in the most Christian country on earth, the USA, and I know better.
Tom
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Sapiens said:
Idiots are those who believe in winged horses yet deny that, by today's standards, Mohammad (as the tale is told) was a pedophile.
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I don't believe the tale which says that the prophet traveled to heaven by a winged horse and
actually the prophet didn't know how the paradise looks like other than what have been described
in the quran, so rationally speaking, traveling to heaven and meeting God is just a tale, not different from the tale about having sex with children in which you believe.
 
Kirran

Kirran

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Premium Member
FearGod said:
Do you see? you said it.
Do you believe that Jibril spoke to Mohammad? if not then why you believe
that he loves having sex with children? I'm asking you the same question that you asked me.
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Again, I don't care if he did it or not. I care that people believe it and look up to him.
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
jeager106 said:
I just skip over the whole pedophile crap.
Why?
Because it's crap and an insult to Islam.
I don't support, but to study Islam with an open mind.
It is after all a HUGE world wide religion and worthy of learning
about.
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The truth about the prophet and islam are an insult to them ? So you accept lies so they won't be insulted ? If the prophet they adore cannot be addressed in truth, they deserve to be insulted. I have been studying it since 9/11. I find their "holy books " and resultant culture to be an indictment of their belief system, history is a strong witness supporting this indictment as well
 
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