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For those who think that prophet Mohammad was a pedophile

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Describing the prophet as being fetish is even stupider than thinking of him as being a pedophile.

And pretending to not understand what I mean by my usage of a word because you can't get ahead of me in an argument is quite childish.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Yes you are conditioned to love this evil man, thank god I'm not.

I don't have anything about him other than having the message of Islam, my love
is to Allah and I believe that God sent the messengers to inform us the truth that you
don't know, some people chose to live on this earth like any other creatures,
like the roaches and dogs ....etc, they don't know what the purpose of life and for
what reason that they're living on earth.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Have the guts to admit that he did have relationships with small children, even Joseph married Mary when she was only fourteen, which to us today would be considered a pedophilia act, yes it wasn't considered that back then, but again have the guts to admit it when your wrong.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I don't have anything about him other than having the message of Islam, my love
is to Allah and I believe that God sent the messengers to inform us the truth that you
don't know, some people chose to live on this earth like any other creatures,
like the roaches and dogs ....etc, they don't know what the purpose of life and for
what reason that they're living on earth.
Well stop living like a roach and admit when your wrong.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Fetish is having a sexual feeling toward an object, like a woman's shoes....etc

Or to a body part, body type, weight, height, etc.
You also have the linguistic usage to consider.

You know exactly what I meant when I said fetish, I am 99% sure of it.
If you want to conveniently ignore that, go ahead.
We can end our discussion on that note.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Have the guts to admit that he did have relationships with small children, even Joseph married Mary when she was only fourteen, which to us today would be considered a pedophilia act, yes it wasn't considered that back then, but again have the guts to admit it when your wrong.

According to our modern understanding, do you think a pedophile will choose to live 25 years
with an old woman while he can easily choose a 12 years old girl, which was normal in the
previous times.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
In that case I won't make any decision, but you're making your decision about
him of being a bad person, why not just don't care than making a specific
decision without a proper investigation, do you think it's kind of a wise thinking?

I have read many wonderful things about Muhammad and Islam and have come to know and love Muhammad and the Quran. He was perfect, truthful and sinless like Jesus.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
According to our modern understanding, do you think a pedophile will choose to live 25 years
with an old woman while he can easily choose a 12 years old girl, which was normal in the
previous times.
Now you talking, you are at last admitting it, and yes it was normal back then, I never said it wasn't, but in our eye's today he is seen as a pedophile, that simple.
 

interminable

منتظر
Look
In the past especially in Arab areas if u had a relationship with a tribe even a small one u would be protected from their hostility and they didn't harm u or battle u

Prophet muhammad pbuh married some women just because to unite them and curb them to do battle

This is a fact that still somewhat can be find in my Country too


Besides atheists don't say it was a marriage. They call it pedophile unfortunately. They even can't differentiate between marriage and pedophile.

After all this was very very common practice at that time and usually was practiced

Even Shia scholars say that the daughter of the prophet got merried to Ali when she was 9 or 11
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Or to a body part, body type, weight, height, etc.
You also have the linguistic usage to consider.

You know exactly what I meant when I said fetish, I am 99% sure of it.
If you want to conveniently ignore that, go ahead.
We can end our discussion on that note.

LOL, and a fetish will live with only one woman till she dies, then after that he becomes a fetish.
Which science is this ?
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
LOL, and a fetish will live with only one woman till she dies, then after that he becomes a fetish.
Which science is this ?

I do not understand how your response is tied to the post of mine that you've quoted.
Actually, I don't understand your meaning at all in almost any sense.
Elaborate on your point.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Now you talking, you are at last admitting it, and yes it was normal back then, I never said it wasn't, but in our eye's today he is seen as a pedophile, that simple.

You didn't get my point, if a person was a pedophile back at that era, then he'll choose
a very young girl than Khadija which was in her 40s.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him was known to be a decent and a honest man, he
didn't has any relation with any women in his youth years even though that obscenity was
existing in the Arabian peninsula and women were available as slaves in all ages, so finding
a woman in that era wasn't a big issue.

The first wife of the prophet was Khadija, she was a widow of the age of 40 while
the prophet was at the age of 25, he loved her regardless of her age and they stayed
married for 25 years and when she died at the age of 65, the prophet was at the age of 50.

Khadija was the first woman to accept Islam as she knows her husband very well and
she trusted him even before being married to him, the prophet was called the truthful
and the honest( as-sadiq al-amin) which I believe it was planned by Allah in order for
his people to believe and accept the message of Islam.

To be continued ....
What you are saying is true, @FearGod for the most part, that is, as far as we know. According to Arabic lore Muhammad was definitely married to Khadija for a very long time and seemed to thrive in his role as her husband. As noted however, at 50... at FIFTY years old ... he decided to take a child for his wife. That IS troubling. He had daughters who were older... Curiously, all his other wives he married after Aisha were not considered children by those who wrote their histories about Muhammad. That singular fact makes me believe she was very young.

"The majority of traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham,[11] when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.[12][13][14] This timeline has been challenged by a number of scholars in modern times." <Source>
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I do not understand how your response is tied to the post of mine that you've quoted.
Actually, I don't understand your meaning at all in almost any sense.
Elaborate on your point.

You said that the prophet if not a pedophile because he married an old woman then
he maybe a fetish person, so I asked you how a fetish person lives with one woman
for 25 years and both love each others, a scientific and a smart reply please
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
What you are saying is true, @FearGod for the most part, that is, as far as we know. According to Arabic lore Muhammad was definitely married to Khadija for a very long time and seemed to thrive in his role as her husband. As noted however, at 50... at FIFTY years old ... he decided to take a child for his wife. That IS troubling. He had daughters who were older... Curiously, all his other wives he married after Aisha were not considered children by those who wrote their histories about Muhammad. That singular fact makes me believe she was very young.

"The majority of traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham,[11] when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.[12][13][14] This timeline has been challenged by a number of scholars in modern times." <Source>

The OP is the start, the prophet started his life with an old woman and he loved her till she died,
what happened next will be discussed in my next posts, thanks
 
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