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. . . because it is false
It was not a lie because Jesus meant that there is no one as good as God. It was not a false humility. It was a true humility.
Many people are good, and the Manifestations of God were good, but nobody is as good as God. That is what Jesus meant in Mark 10:18
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
No Manifestations of God ever sinned. What you might consider a sin was not a sin in God's eyes.
No Jesus dodi not lie. You just interpret sciectripture in Hellenist Roman perspective making Jesus a Roman Demigod.
That is correct, creation has always existed, which implies that it was not created by anyone, but that does not mean that the world and humans have always existed since creation is everything in existence, not only what is on earth.
Humans were not created the way it says in Genesis. Humans evolved over the course of time.
But you could say that God created humans since God set the process of evolution into motion.
It was by the will of God that humans and everything else in the heavens and on earth came into existence, as it is described in Genesis, so in that sense Genesis is correct. It just did not all happen in six days.
Isaiah 9:6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
The Messiah who is to rule the earth and usher in a reign of blessing and peace that will have no end who holds the title of 'Everlasting Father' is not Jesus.
Isaiah 9:6-7 is not about Jesus. Jesus disclaimed being the Mighty God when He called Himself “the Son of God”
Scripture does not support your claim
John 1:18 states:
"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."
Revelation 22:6-9 states:
"The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."
Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.”
I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me.But he said to me, 'Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!' "
Then it continues in the same chapter
Revelation 22:12-16
"Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
'Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
So when you quote , 'The Father is greater then I' i quote 'The Father and I are one'
The same with the other claims , it has an answer.
The problem with subjective interpretive religious beliefs in prophecies attempts at reason and logic are for the most part circular to justify ones own beliefs.There are many prophecies about the Messiah that Baha'u'llah and Baha'i claim belong to Baha'u'llah, even if those prophecies are applied to Jesus in the New Testament.
Reason and logic does not work because they do not believe the Bible but believe Baha'u'llah and Baha'i teachings and deny the Bible wherever it contradicts those teachings. But interestingly they say that they don't deny the Bible, that they just interpret it differently.
The concept of the Trinity in the form of a polytheism is wide spread in ancient human religions.Hinduism also has the Trinity concept
So, Trinity concept exists
As such it's true
Trimurti
The Trimūrti is the trinity of supreme divinity in Hinduism, in which the cosmic functions of creation, preservation, and destruction
The story of Adam and and Eve is not history. It is a story told by Jews to make some kind of point. Also a lot of the stories about Abraham are just stories and not history. Abdu'l-Baha said in effect that Moses took the fall on behalf of the Hebrews who were the ones that rebelled, and even if Abdu'l-Baha is not to be believed, how can it be verified in the minute detail that Moses sinned by striking the rock instead of speaking to it, which to me seems to be not a sin really. That is really straining credibility to call that little detail a sin. God is quoted as saying He sinned by doing that, but can that be believed? It doesn't strike me as being a sin. What you are saying doesn't prove that the Baha'i position is wrong. How can you be so confident about that? You wouldn't be so confident if you just used your noggin. I'm not saying that the Baha'i position is proven. You have your opinion and I have mine.So Jesus made a mistake and should have said that nobody is as good as God.
However since Jesus is exactly like His Father, then He is as good as God.
Adam sinned in the eyes of God when he ate the fruit. He did what God had told him not to do.
Moses sinned in the eyes of God when he struck the Rock of Meribah instead of just speaking to it as God had told him to do. He was punished for this sin by not being allowed to enter the promised land.
Abraham sinned when he listened to Sarah and had sex with Sarah's maidservant Hagar instead of believing God when told that Sarah would become pregnant, and was punished for it.
Deny these things and you are again denying the Bible and showing the fruit of following the false prophet.
All of the Manifestations have been in existence forever. How creation is brought about is complex. The Baha'i position as I understand it is that God created the Primal Will, and the Primal Will in turn is what created creation. The Primal Will of God is manifested through all the Manifestations. So, what John was talking about in the beginning of his gospel account I understand as the Primal Will creating creation, which in a sense points to Jesus also because the Primal Will also is manifested through Jesus. My understanding on that matter is subject to possible revision, because it is a subtle and complex position.How do you think it is possible that all things were created through Jesus the Son if He has not been in existence forever?
There are different translations of that. For instance the new King James version says:John 1:18 states:
"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."
There you go then, you recognize Jesus is God and that was His point with the question.Of course Jesus is good.
The Baha'i Faith also has a Trinity concept, but it is different from the Christian concept.Hinduism also has the Trinity concept
So, Trinity concept exists
As such it's true
Jesus is good but Jesus is not God.There you go then, you recognize Jesus is God and that was His point with the question.
He always was bringing people to a point of faith by asking questions, like to Peter Who do people say that I am? Who do you say that I am?
I am the one who said what is in that post to which you are replying.Scripture does not support your claim
You seem to want to avoid the correct translations of the Bible in favor of translations that have been altered to make Jesus into God.John 1:18 states:
"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."
None of those verses indicate that Jesus is God.Revelation 22:6-9 states:
"The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."
Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.”
I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me.But he said to me, 'Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!' "
Then it continues in the same chapter
Revelation 22:12-16
"Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
'Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
“I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) means that whatever pertains to Jesus, all His acts and doings, are identical with the Will of the Father. Jesus and God also share the same Holy Spirit, so in that sense they are one. Jesus also shares some (but not all) the Attributes of God so in that sense they are one.So when you quote , 'The Father is greater then I' i quote 'The Father and I are one'
The same with the other claims , it has an answer.
Can’t have it both ways. If Jesus Christ is not God then He is a fraud and liar.Jesus is good but Jesus is not God.
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.So Jesus made a mistake and should have said that nobody is as good as God.
However since Jesus is exactly like His Father, then He is as good as God.
You do not know what is a sin in the Eyes of God. You only know what you read in the Bible.Adam sinned in the eyes of God when he ate the fruit. He did what God had told him not to do.
Moses sinned in the eyes of God when he struck the Rock of Meribah instead of just speaking to it as God had told him to do. He was punished for this sin by not being allowed to enter the promised land.
Abraham sinned when he listened to Sarah and had sex with Sarah's maidservant Hagar instead of believing God when told that Sarah would become pregnant, and was punished for it.
Deny these things and you are again denying the Bible and showing the fruit of following the false prophet.
No, Jesus is not a fraud or a liar since Jesus never claimed to be God.Can’t have it both ways. If Jesus Christ is not God then He is a fraud and liar.
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.But He is neither of those but The Son of God, God Incarnate, The Perfect One, The First and the Last, The Almighty.