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Forget Scientology... it's ALL about OTO

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
Introducing the Satanic sex cult that's snaring stars such as Peaches Geldof | Mail Online

"Yet OTO is much more than a marketing opportunity for attention-seeking celebs. It is a living religion, with adherents still practising occult rituals set out by Crowley in his books.This week I tracked down John Bonner, 62, the head of OTO in the UK, to his home in East Sussex. He told me: 'We are not a mass-appeal sort of organisation — in the UK we number in our hundreds. Worldwide it’s thousands.

Celebrities are not always a boon or a benefit. 'We are used to being misunderstood. Many stories about Crowley, like people saying he filed his teeth down into fangs, are nonsense.

'You could call us a sex cult in a way, because we recognise, accept and adore the whole process which goes towards making tangible the previously intangible.'
According to adherents of OTO it takes years of study before you can begin to understand what the religion is about — much like the equally controversial Church of Scientology.

Bonner takes issue with the comparison, saying it is 'extremely expensive' to study Scientology, yet OTO demands no financial contributions.

ohn Bonner is dismissive of any idea that he and his fellow believers would even begin to countenance such excesses, pointing out that his is the only religion that sends people a letter of congratulations when they decide to leave ('because they are exercising free will, which is what we’re all about').

But he accepts many people may not be able to deal with Crowley’s complex teachings.
'You’re not supposed to just jump straight in to it. It takes time and study, but our rituals are not for public consumption. You need to join us and go through the initiation process before you can begin to understand.
'But according to our beliefs we can’t turn anyone away. So if you are over 18, are passably sane and are free to attend initiations, then you have an undeniable right of membership."

 
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jonman122

Active Member
I'll totally sign up depending on what the initiation is. With Sex cult in the name, it can't be that bad
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
Sex is an intrinsic part, if not the foundation of OTO philosophy... but if you think joining will get you laid you may well be very diappointed.
 

Prophet

breaking the statutes of my local municipality
Sex is an intrinsic part, if not the foundation of OTO philosophy... but if you think joining will get you laid you may well be very diappointed.

While getting laid in general would be super awesome as we'd all surely agree, what interests me most greatly are the opportunities for taking part in freaky altar church sex as either a participant or a voyeur like I saw in that awesome Da Vinci Code movie. Where do I sign up for this OTO?
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Crowley was a loon. There are legitimate LHP religions, and then, there's things like this. Like some religions, this is just an excuse to indulge and 'feel good' about it.
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
Crowley was a loon. There are legitimate LHP religions, and then, there's things like this. Like some religions, this is just an excuse to indulge and 'feel good' about it.

And if you need an excuse to indulge and feel good about it, you are obviously plagued with guilt and anxiety. Which is almost invariably what drives people to something like this - makes sense to me.

Some need a method to not indulge, and 'feel good' about it.

Yet others do not indulge, and feel bad about it.

So many options ...
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I may never decide whether I understand what Thelema is all about. It sounds so weird to me.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Yeah, sounds about right.

Sometimes I truly find myself believing that Thelema is nothing more or less than a sort of antidote to certain excesses of Christianity.

That would explain both its appeal, which to me is meant to be somewhat specific, albeit not necessarily restricted, and its dangers, which I learned to be wary of.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Sounds like the same old employment discrimination that we've all faced all our lives, but now its trying to get legal protection as a religion. I can hardly wait to become a boss.
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
Yeah, sounds about right.

Sometimes I truly find myself believing that Thelema is nothing more or less than a sort of antidote to certain excesses of Christianity.

That would explain both its appeal, which to me is meant to be somewhat specific, albeit not necessarily restricted, and its dangers, which I learned to be wary of.

Its founder was very much intersted in finding the antidote to his Plymouth Brethren Christian upbringing.
Thank the gods he did, else we may all still be living under the tyranny of organised religion... we got a long way to go though.. Do what thou wilt SHALL be the whole of the Law...
 
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