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France Rates Fifty Shades of Grey Suitable for Teens

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
The Internet killed off whatever innocence I had when I started frequenting sites like Ogrish a decade ago.

Lol it does have a tendency to do that to people. I have found my innocence lost when I discovered Diamanda Hagan reviews and her.....choices in movies to review.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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I don't know who that is.

Oh she's a reviewer on Channel Awesome. Her "Schtick" is that she's basically a demonic Hell Goddess who abuses her "minions." She reviews really obscure ****ed up and sometimes just good old fashioned exploitation films. Kind of like Cinema Snob but more.......out there. I find her surprisingly fun to watch.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Oh she's a reviewer on Channel Awesome. Her "Schtick" is that she's basically a demonic Hell Goddess who abuses her "minions." She reviews really obscure ****ed up and sometimes just good old fashioned exploitation films. Kind of like Cinema Snob but more.......out there. I find her surprisingly fun to watch.
I'll check her out when my Internet troubles are fixed. :D
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
The French are just not so paranoid about exposing their youth to nudity and sexuality, it is seen as pretty normal. In the US teenagers can watch all manner of grotesque violence, brutality, rape, torture and sadism - but there is a prohibition on seeing nipples.
In France they worry about exposing teens to grotesque violence, brutality, rape, torture and sadism - but are not so much concerned with nipples.

I would be far less concerned about exposing teens to nudity and sexuality, than to graphic violence.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The French are just not so paranoid about exposing their youth to nudity and sexuality, it is seen as pretty normal. In the US teenagers can watch all manner of grotesque violence, brutality, rape, torture and sadism - but there is a prohibition on seeing nipples.
In France they worry about exposing teens to grotesque violence, brutality, rape, torture and sadism - but are not so much concerned with nipples.

I would be far less concerned about exposing teens to nudity and sexuality, than to graphic violence.
Same is true in Sweden whereas even many Disney programs and movies have been banned because of violence.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Same is true in Sweden whereas even many Disney programs and movies have been banned because of violence.
Yeah, apparently they find the depiction of animals with human characteristics (talking mice for example) as deeply offensive also.
It's interesting where different societies draw the line between what is and what is not appropriate.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
I've seen French movies that are deemed suitable for teens over there. They'd probably view 50 Shades as uninteresting and fluffy.

Considering its content I would not want my hypothetical girls watching it. Not an age appropriate story. And I do not mean because of the hanky panky.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Considering its content I would not want my hypothetical girls watching it. Not an age appropriate story. And I do not mean because of the hanky panky.

I'm not saying I'd let my nieces watch or read it. At the same time, the French wouldn't be phased by something like this. The Board actually viewed it as nothing more than a silly fluffy romance. I'm sure the French kids, if their parents let them view it, won't take the movie to heart. Or at least their respective guardian would tell them that's it's not realistic. Kids nowadays are far more sophisticated anyway. And considering what the French allows their kids to watch, I wouldn't be worried about them seeing this.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
I'm not saying I'd let my nieces watch or read it. At the same time, the French wouldn't be phased by something like this. The Board actually viewed it as nothing more than a silly fluffy romance. I'm sure the French kids, if their parents let them view it, won't take the movie to heart. Or at least their respective guardian would tell them that's it's not realistic. Kids nowadays are far more sophisticated anyway. And considering what the French allows their kids to watch, I wouldn't be worried about them seeing this.

I guess it would depend on what the culture is there when it comes to handling the type of relationship that they are depicting (a toxic and damaging one).
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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I guess it would depend on what the culture is there when it comes to handling the type of relationship that they are depicting (a toxic and damaging one).

I think so. Given their rather lax, open and frank approach to sexuality in France, I don't think the concern for kids over there watching 50 Shades is warranted. In another country, maybe.
Still, I think it's only damaging for a young teenager to see this movie if the parents are not open to frank discussion about relationships and sex and fail to provide the proper context for the young one.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Yeah, apparently they find the depiction of animals with human characteristics (talking mice for example) as deeply offensive also.
It's interesting where different societies draw the line between what is and what is not appropriate.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Listening to conversations at school (regarding this movie), I have determined we are not the sexually liberated society we claim to be. They way people talk you would think the age difference in the book/movie is a very serious issue and the sexual practices featured are, to quote a couple of my peers "is not the way it's supposed to be."
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Thanks for that. I tend to see their point. Disney has some rather darker themes than just violence also - Pocahontas - the romantic adventures based on a middle aged trapper who abducted and raped a 12 year old native girl.
Of perhaps lions who just KNOW that they were born to rule.

My son and I discuss the politics quite often - the Star Wars, Clone Wars animated show is full of countless cloned, self aware soldiers who appear to be completely disposable. As are the also self aware robot soldiers they are pitted against.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Listening to conversations at school (regarding this movie), I have determined we are not the sexually liberated society we claim to be. They way people talk you would think the age difference in the book/movie is a very serious issue and the sexual practices featured are, to quote a couple of my peers "is not the way it's supposed to be."
I assume you're talking about French society.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
I think so. Given their rather lax, open and frank approach to sexuality in France, I don't think the concern for kids over there watching 50 Shades is warranted. In another country, maybe.
Still, I think it's only damaging for a young teenager to see this movie if the parents are not open to frank discussion about relationships and sex and fail to provide the proper context for the young one.

The sex is the minor issue with this movie and story in general.
 
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