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Free Iran from the Islamic Republic!

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
It is this attitude that is turning Muslims ( and hence Muslim majority nations ) towards
Russia and China.

..in fact, any govt. that doesn't follow the US political system are deemed oppressors.
This is a fantasy .. once upon a time, the US had political credibility .. but now, it is
increasingly becoming the most corrupt nation on the planet, with its govt. being
dictated to (and effectively run) by the wealthy.

I can understand why some nations don't want to copy that .. it's a disaster, although
many people are mesmerized by its apparent success.
..it's only a matter of time.
In fact I don't think the US government would agree with me. This is my opinion, but I have a lot of evidence to back it up.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Did you watch the video in the OP? Have you done even a simple internet search about how much Iranians hate the Islamic Republic?


No, I haven’t got my information about Iran from a simple internet search. I have been a supporter of ILA for some years, so I’m not completely ignorant of the various struggles of the Iranian people International Liberty Association

I think as a US citizen, you would do well to focus on promoting human rights on your own continent; I think you’re in for a bumpy ride, and perhaps not best placed to form opinions about cultures of which you know nothing.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
No, I haven’t got my information about Iran from a simple internet search. I have been a supporter of ILA for some years, so I’m not completely ignorant of the various struggles of the Iranian people International Liberty Association

I think as a US citizen, you would do well to focus on promoting human rights on your own continent; I think you’re in for a bumpy ride, and perhaps not best placed to form opinions about cultures of which you know nothing.
You do not know how much I know, I was just giving you some quick ideas for your own edification.

As for "my" continent, I've addressed that several times. If you're not going to read my posts I'd appreciate it if you stopped slurring me.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
It seems most Iranians do not want to be ruled / oppressed by the Islamic Republic that runs Iran. (Seems reasonable!)

Of course the far left want to jump on the virtue-signalling band wagon and defend the Islamic Republic, sigh:

I wish no one had to live under tyranny. It's regrettable that the world we live in is so full of hate, ignorance and oppression. I really feel for them.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't represent my government. My guess is that no one at RF represents their government, correct. We're all just individuals.

Zooming way, way out I think the three first order problems we as individuals need to work on are:
You represent?
Ugly truth your government represented by AIPAC in ME.

Nothing going against their wishes.
USA is occupied by Israel lobby.

 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
You represent?
Ugly truth your government represented by AIPAC in ME.

Nothing going against their wishes.
USA is occupied by Israel lobby.
Mmm .. and we now here that Iran is behind assassination attempts of Donald Trump.

It's getting to the point, where intelligent people no longer take anything that the US
announces seriously.
..and that is serious, in my opinion.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
once upon a time, the US had political credibility .. but now, it is
increasingly becoming the most corrupt nation on the planet, with its govt. being
dictated to (and effectively run) by the wealthy
That's really unfair:

Our govt. Has ALWAYS been dictated to (and effectively run) by the wealthy.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
You represent?
Ugly truth your government represented by AIPAC in ME.

Nothing going against their wishes.
USA is occupied by Israel lobby.

Not quite sure how this was a response to my post.

That said, I would say that the UN is occupied by the Islamic lobby, in other words the OIC.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's really unfair:

Our govt. Has ALWAYS been dictated to (and effectively run) by the wealthy.
But it has recently gotten worse.
Trump has actually changed his stance on electric vehicles,
switching from opposition to favoring because of Musk's
support.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That's really unfair:

Our govt. Has ALWAYS been dictated to (and effectively run) by the wealthy.

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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
I'd be curious as to what means you intend to free Iran with in that case in my view.

If you are simply meaning to help re-educate Iranians I don't see why you didn't say it in the OP in my opinion.

The "Islamic Republic" is a theocratic regime. It is NOT a government that Iranians want. Does that clear anything up?
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The "Islamic Republic" is a theocratic regime. It is NOT a government that Iranians want. Does that clear anything up?
No, it doesn't answer my question at all in my view.

My question is what means are you proposing we use to free the Iranian people, in other words, how do you propose we do it?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
You do not know how much I know, I was just giving you some quick ideas for your own edification.

As for "my" continent, I've addressed that several times. If you're not going to read my posts I'd appreciate it if you stopped slurring me.

Do you know that you never talk about these monsters ? Which are definitely evil more than Islamists, you always care about?
Islamists are not regime which allow to kill children and women,innocents of enemy
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
No, it doesn't answer my question at all in my view.

My question is what means are you proposing we use to free the Iranian people, in other words, how do you propose we do it?

I think that in general the first step to solving problems is to know that there IS a problem. I'm not being flip here. The official name of the country is "The Islamic Republic of Iran". It used to be "Iran". The Islamic Republic oppresses its people and has an extremely poor human rights record.

A key point here is to separate Iranian people from the totalitarian, authoritarian regime.

We see a lot activism and protests aimed at helping oppressed people, but we see very few protests in support of Iranians as oppressed people. It strikes me that most of us view the Islamic Republic as bad guys (and I'd say the regime ARE bad guys), and we don't keep the regime separate from the people.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Do you know that you never talk about these monsters ? Which are definitely evil more than Islamists, you always care about?
Islamists are not regime which allow to kill children and women,innocents of enemy
In your opinion, what percentage of the blame for the war in Gaza should be placed on Israel?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The "Islamic Republic" is a theocratic regime. It is NOT a government that Iranians want. Does that clear anything up?
Let's compare USA government and Iran government.

* Iran don't have a lobby of other countries inside it,to control it.
USA has!

I think most of USA citizens against genocide in Gaza, don't want their money goes Israel,and Ukraine, who cares.
 
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