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Free Iran from the Islamic Republic!
- Thread starter icehorse
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That's their business. They can free themselves if they want to.
Whatever influence the US might have had in Iran died with the Shah back in 1979. We installed a tyrant to rule over their country, and they've hated us for it ever since. (But they liked Reagan for some strange reason.)
I don't know to what extent any organized resistance exists in Iran, or if they're getting any outside help. I think we should try to avoid intervening or interfering, though. One problem that the U.S. has had when it comes to interfering in other countries' business is that we all too often end up backing the wrong side - or a side which may come back to bite us. Like the Taliban.
I don't see it as a right-left issue necessarily, but I just think it's wiser to look at these things in a more circumspect and considerate manner, without rushing headlong into a course of action which might appear to be the "right thing to do" on the surface. But when you scratch a bit further, it gets more layered and complicated.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Bad timing. Really bad timing.
Say more... ? thanks
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Didn't our experience in Afghanistan teach us anything about the cost both financially and in terms of human life to achieve nothing?
I don't see what virtue signalling has to do with it in my view.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I do? Since when?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
In my opinion we owe it to them to help overthrow it since Uncle Sam started it.
stvdv
Veteran Member
That may be so, but oftentimes, whenever our government tries to "help," they end up doing just the opposite.
I suppose they could train some Iranians and have them covertly enter the country, something similar to the Bay of Pigs or the Contras. That's kind of an iffy proposition. With China and Russia siding with the Iranian government, they too would also get a lot of outside help.
Another possibility could be to persuade China and Russia to throw Iran under the bus and give the U.S. a free hand in Iran to do whatever is necessary to destroy that regime, just as we did with Saddam Hussein's government in Iraq. But what would we be willing to offer China and Russia to get them to agree to that?
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
I doubt it .. looks more like propaganda to me.
McDonald's opened its first Iranian branch in Tabriz in 1971, but it was closed in 1979 due to the Islamic Revolution. In 1994, McDonald's tried to re-enter the market, but an anti-American attack on the construction site prevented it from happening.
Some of us are fed up with your monopolies .. KEEP OUT!
I doubt it .. looks more like propaganda to me.
McDonald's opened its first Iranian branch in Tabriz in 1971, but it was closed in 1979 due to the Islamic Revolution. In 1994, McDonald's tried to re-enter the market, but an anti-American attack on the construction site prevented it from happening.
Some of us are fed up with your monopolies .. KEEP OUT!
I never could understand the focus on McDonald's as some kind of hated symbol of American imperialism. A lot of Americans can't stand McDonald's either. They seemingly want the U.S. to end its sanctions and to trade with us, but McDonald's is out of the question.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
The issues go back farther than 1979. The Iranian people had a democratically elected government in the 50s. But they nationalized their oil and the US and the Brits could not stand for that!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
Good 'ol America, spreading freedom around the world lol
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The US has handed Trump and his entourage of theocrats control of the White House and Congress. Maybe more Americans should focus on liberating their own country from theocratic extremism instead of encouraging more of the same aggressive interventionism that overthrew Iran's democratically elected government and paved the way for the current one to hold power in the first place.
Exactly. This has to be one of the most tone-deaf threads I have seen in a long time.
I agree, if it could be done without large-scale military intervention or other similarly aggressive approaches, since those have historically done far more harm than good in other countries (e.g., Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq). The Iranian regime has definitely been a source of abuse and instability both domestically and regionally.
I'm probably flogging a dead horse at this point, but what makes you believe that the United States government has the will or the ability to 'free' Iran?
Assuming you know at-least in brief the history of US meddling in the region: how many more failures of US foreign policy would it take to dissuade you from supporting such?
Assuming you know at-least in brief the history of US meddling in the region: how many more failures of US foreign policy would it take to dissuade you from supporting such?
Should we take the same attitude towards Gazans?
Yep. Oil always seems to enter the picture.
This scene from The Formula is one of my favorites. It was oil that nourished the American Dream.