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Free Iran from the Islamic Republic!

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In general Muslims don't have problem to live with non-Muslims , some are decline in some Islam orders, link drinking and girls ...etc
but general Muslms communty don't drink ,girls ,don't accept LBGPT and other things. invidual cross the limites find anyway.
It's about control self desires.
Of course, they have the option of
living a life that comports with Islam.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Hamas is a self-proclaimed terrorist organization..
No .. these labels are political in nature.

The IRA was/is a "terrorist organization" .. but currently, they are part of the political structure of
both Northern Ireland and Irish Republic.

..and incidentally, the IRA had a lot of support in the US, at a time when they were bombing
mainland England.

..so these labels are political. Naturally, a nation's own army can't be considered "terrorists", whatever
amount of bombing they do. :expressionless:
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
No .. these labels are political in nature.

The IRA was/is a "terrorist organization" .. but currently, they are part of the political structure of
both Northern Ireland and Irish Republic.

..and incidentally, the IRA had a lot of support in the US, at a time when they were bombing
mainland England.

..so these labels are political. Naturally, a nation's own army can't be considered "terrorists", whatever
amount of bombing they do. :expressionless:
Today when was coming to my work comes to my mind this idea.
So Americans were terrorists when they were fighting against British colonial!!
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Today when was coming to my work comes to my mind this idea.
So Americans were terrorists when they were fighting against British colonial!!

At the time of the American Revolution, I'm sure many people thought of them that way. They may not have used the word "terrorist," though.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
No .. these labels are political in nature.

The IRA was/is a "terrorist organization" .. but currently, they are part of the political structure of
both Northern Ireland and Irish Republic.

..and incidentally, the IRA had a lot of support in the US, at a time when they were bombing
mainland England.

..so these labels are political. Naturally, a nation's own army can't be considered "terrorists", whatever
amount of bombing they do. :expressionless:

Well, you know the old saying, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." But even then, it might be conditional based on how they fight and the kinds of targets they pick. In modern times, there's an underlying insinuation that terrorists are actually cowards. Even if they have righteous grievances.

It's like, a kid who is bullied and wants to fight back but is either too weak or too scared to take on the bully directly. So, he goes and beats up the bully's grandmother instead, just to show how tough he is.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Well, you know the old saying, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." But even then, it might be conditional based on how they fight and the kinds of targets they pick..
Right .. and we are expected to believe that Israel and its backers, are fighting "a just war", with
the killing of women and children being collateral damage, and its mass destruction of residential
property as "fair game".

No .. no nation likes to be threatened by dissidents .. military force is part of the response, but
diplomatic/political discourse becomes essential for sustained peace.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Right .. and we are expected to believe that Israel and its backers, are fighting "a just war", with
the killing of women and children being collateral damage, and its mass destruction of residential
property as "fair game".

No .. no nation likes to be threatened by dissidents .. military force is part of the response, but
diplomatic/political discourse becomes essential for sustained peace.

Do you feel the same way about wars in which Muslims won?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Right .. and we are expected to believe that Israel and its backers, are fighting "a just war", with
the killing of women and children being collateral damage, and its mass destruction of residential
property as "fair game".

No .. no nation likes to be threatened by dissidents .. military force is part of the response, but
diplomatic/political discourse becomes essential for sustained peace.

I agree with peaceful, diplomatic solutions. Ideally, I'd like to think that we should all be able to coexist with each other, regardless of whatever differences might exist. I realize that's not very realistic, but only because I know that too many people tend to be egotistical and irresponsible hotheads.

I see a lot of that here in America, and I'm sure it's a phenomenon which can be found everywhere on earth. There are people here who say things like "bomb them back to the stone age." But then they speak of "collateral damage" as if it was just some unfortunate "accident." But few people seem to believe that it's any kind of "accident."

Diplomats are also politicians, and politicians are rarely honest. That, along with so many accident-prone military forces operating out there, the chances for sustained peace seem somewhat gloomy at this point.
 
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