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free will
- Thread starter BIG D
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I am referring to our relationship between chemistry, joules and intent.IMHO Desire need not be seen as limited to or in the body. It is not created or held by the body, despite it feeling that way. The reaction to the stimulus is felt by the body, and witnessed by you. The witnessing is already master, alone it is strong enough and requires nothing. Desire simply evaporates like water on a hot stove.
I agree that the self is beyond what can be taught but we can remove the barriers we have built against it, i.e. conditioning. Animus animates animal. I wonder then are you disembodied and miraculously manipulating the electrons on my computer screen? What is practical is that which we practice.
EverChanging
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Go back and read my post. I did not cry racism, but gave you an explanation and said that an assertion that blacks across the board, everywhere, commit more murder may be an indication of racism. Where is your source for these statistics?
google 'murder by race stats' ..Dept of Justice also has info ....wikipedia also---REMEMBER-blacks only make up less than 15% of total population[2008<>13%] and it said about 36%[2008] of murders ,where as whites had about 32% of murders ,but whites have a much bigger population, per wikipedia...so,per population, the difference in murder rates is not 4%, but much more ..no hate or racism involved here...I'm exploring free will....you mentioned racism...I stated facts---assertion???..no, these are facts!!!.I did NOT say everywhere, you did...seems like you immediately asserted racism...across the board??..the original thread specificly asks if it IS socio-economic/culture, meaning NOT everyone or everywhere, does it...meaning --maybe--people with better means are less likely to murder, no???
Bureau of Justice Statistics Homicide trends in the U.S.: Trends by race
this is an excellent site, Dept of Justice --it has other crimes..my point<>I don't believe in free will because you have disparate numbers 'committing' certain 'sins'
The will is the part of the mind that makes decisions, no? I fail to see where I was charged anything to possess that capacity, no matter what socio-economic circumstance we might find ourselves in. Will is a quality of mind.
strikeviperMKII
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In a fantasy world, maybe. There is a consequence to every action we take. But just because there is a consequence to an action doesn't mean you can't choose to do that action. You still get to choose, regardless of the consequences of that choice.
EverChanging
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Actually, in your third post you asserted:
It sounded to me like you had expanded your claim to include blacks worldwide because you were not specific or clear about which populations or where. You could very well have meant all populations where there are white and black people. And if you read my post, I did not cry racism. I said the comment could have been motivated by racism. There's a difference.
But in regard to the OP, this has to do with the history of the African American culture, the effects of discrimination, lower levels of education, living in ghettos, etc., which are all related to the effects of racism passed from one generation to the next. And no, I don't believe in free will.