French Cartoonist arrest in Paris for Blasphemy!

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Making cartoons about Zionists(and jews) is the new blasphemy in Europe. U can insult God and Jesus pbuh, but not the Jews! Dont criticize Israel or u will be labled as antisemite!


French cartoonist Zeon arrested for anti-Zionist work - Non-Aligned Media

 

[Lyndon]

I don't see how his cartoons are any more offensive to Jews, than Charlie Hebdo's cartoons were offensive to Muslims.

 

[Godobeyer]

I don't see how his cartoons are any more offensive to Jews, than Charlie Hebdo's cartoons were offensive to Muslims.

It's seems freedom of speech in France is ON about Muslims , it's OFF about Jews

 

[Smart_Guy]

I don't see how his cartoons are any more offensive to Jews, than Charlie Hebdo's cartoons were offensive to Muslims.

Hey, it's good to hear from you again

 

[Lyndon]

Yeah I was taking a 'vacation', but glad to be back!! Good to see you smart one.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Making cartoons about Zionists(and jews) is the new blasphemy in Europe. U can insult God and Jesus pbuh, but not the Jews! Dont criticize Israel or u will be labled as antisemite!


French cartoonist Zeon arrested for anti-Zionist work - Non-Aligned Media

Let's assume the OP is fair and accurate for a moment. What is the right action? To protect Jews and Muslims from blasphemy, or to open both religions to criticism?

 

[Tumah]

1. Why is this blasphemy?
2. Why are you conflating Jews and Israelis? And then calling them all Zionists. Are you aware that there are Druze and Christians in the Israeli army as well?
3. If G-d and Jesus have a problem with cartoons, why don't they file a complaint to prevent their persecution, like those Jews did?

 

[Lyndon]

Lewisnotmiller, personally I think things released in the general media should be up to some non inflammatory standards, both non anti semitic, and non islamophobic, its pretty clear there is somewhat of a double standard being applied in France, hate speech may be a protected right for an individual, but not when it comes to releasing it to the public in a magazine or publication, IMHO.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

personally I think things released in the general media should be up to some non inflammatory standards, both non anti semitic, and non islamophobic, its pretty clear there is somewhat of a double standard being applied in France, hate speech may be a protected right for an individual, but not when it comes to releasing it to the public in a magazine or publication, IMHO.

I disagree, but appreciate the straight answer.

 

[Lyndon]

Well I'm continually amazed at the blatant hate speech that's allowed in comments on major news stories like on MSNBC and other media, its like there are no rules at all and any outrageously racist or bigoted opinion is fair game in the media, and the media outlets have no interest in moderating or censoring the comments at all. A forum like this has much higher standards against hate speech than the comments section on national news stories in major media, why is that??

 

[Tumah]

Lewisnotmiller, personally I think things released in the general media should be up to some non inflammatory standards, both non anti semitic, and non islamophobic, its pretty clear there is somewhat of a double standard being applied in France, hate speech may be a protected right for an individual, but not when it comes to releasing it to the public in a magazine or publication, IMHO.

I completely agree, in that I don't think freedom of speech should trump civility. Yes, it is important to be able to express anti-whatever feelings. But if in protecting that right, we fan the flames of hatred, then essentially we are putting speech before life. And that is just wrong.

In this case, my opinion is that antisemitism in France has lead to unprovoked death an destruction of Jews. Google "France Jews scared". On the other hand, the only article that I could reference citing Muslims being scared in France by a non-Muslim news source was as backlash from the Hebdo attack. Yes, there does seem to be a double standard here. But on the other hand, there also seems to be an increase in unprovoked attacked against Jews in France as well. Look at the difference in response by Jews to this cartoon vs the response of Muslims to the Hebdo cartoons. So more caution may be warranted on one side.

 

[Lyndon]

Good comment Tumah, Well I can't speak for Europe, but here in America Muslims have much more to fear from hate than Jews IMHO. I wish we could just fight hatred on all fronts, but unfortunately hate is all that some people have to live for.

 

[Jumi]

Like Charlie Hebdo I think he will have his chance in court.

 

[philbo]

I don't see how his cartoons are any more offensive to Jews, than Charlie Hebdo's cartoons were offensive to Muslims.

Except that it's not about causing offence, in just the same way as it's not about blasphemy. This isn't about French law applying double standards so much as different laws applying.

Though it does touch on one of my particular dislikes: that criticism of Israel & Israeli government policy is always denounced as "antisemitic" - I have Jewish friends who have been called antisemitic because they've commented on the inhumanity of some of Israel's actions towards the Palestinians. It is hard not to feel sympathy for a Jew who speaks out for humanitarian reasons and is excoriated, shunned and even attacked by some of the more extreme Jewish elements; yet at the same time he is being physically threatened by local Muslim youths, simply for being identifiably Jewish.

 

[Flankerl]

I love how the artist incorporated antijewish facial prejudices from the 19/20th century into his clear Anti-zionist work.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Tumah and flanker are in favour of dismissing any cartoons about jews as antisemitism( the new holy commandment of the west).

Antisemitism gives them free card to:
1) killing palestinian babies
2) stealing lands of palestinians
3) properties looted from palestinians
4) racist remarks against arabs

So much rights comes with "antisemitism" card! Its like mastercard.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Let's assume the OP is fair and accurate for a moment. What is the right action? To protect Jews and Muslims from blasphemy, or to open both religions to criticism?

To protect all religions from hatred.
That is not possible in west because they took jews as their gods and whoever criticizes them becomes blasphemer.

 

[Tumah]

Tumah and flanker are in favour of dismissing any cartoons about jews as antisemitism( the new holy commandment of the west).

Antisemitism gives them free card to:
1) killing palestinian babies
2) stealing lands of palestinians
3) properties looted from palestinians
4) racist remarks against arabs

So much rights comes with "antisemitism" card! Its like mastercard.

I don't think you understand. There is a difference between being Jewish and being a Zionist. When you are expressing antisemitism, you are including Jews all around the world and in Israel itself who are not Zionists or are anti-Zionist. That is racial hatred without due cause. When you talk about Zionism, you are describing Israelis, some of whom are not necessarily Jewish, who you believe are treating Palestinians unfairly. Do you see the difference? So when you have a caricature that shows a Jewish face, you are expressing antisemitism, not anti-Zionism. That means you are including the liberal Jewish university student who is fighting on your side! That is racial hatred. That is antisemitism.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Brigade of Repression of Delinquency People

Quite a moniker.

Btw doesn't blasphemy only apply to insulting God?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I don't think you understand. There is a difference between being Jewish and being a Zionist. When you are expressing antisemitism, you are including Jews all around the world and in Israel itself who are not Zionists or are anti-Zionist. That is racial hatred without due cause. When you talk about Zionism, you are describing Israelis, some of whom are not necessarily Jewish, who you believe are treating Palestinians unfairly. Do you see the difference? So when you have a caricature that shows a Jewish face, you are expressing antisemitism, not anti-Zionism. That means you are including the liberal Jewish university student who is fighting on your side! That is racial hatred. That is antisemitism.

The same can be said about french cartoonists charlie hebdo. They didnt differentiate extremists from muslims. Their cartoons was hatred against all muslims. But that is called freedom of expression right?
When the same thing happens with jews, it is labled as antisemitism.
Even criticism of the apartheid regime is labled as antisemitism.


Thats why iam saying Jews(Both zionists and non-zionists) are the new Gods of West.

Brigade of Repression of Delinquency People

Quite a moniker.

Btw doesn't blasphemy only apply to insulting God?

Jews are the modern gods of west. They are put higher than God, Jesus pbuh or any religious figure in the christian world.