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French Cartoonist arrest in Paris for Blasphemy!

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I don't think you understand. There is a difference between being Jewish and being a Zionist. When you are expressing antisemitism, you are including Jews all around the world and in Israel itself who are not Zionists or are anti-Zionist. That is racial hatred without due cause. When you talk about Zionism, you are describing Israelis, some of whom are not necessarily Jewish, who you believe are treating Palestinians unfairly. Do you see the difference? So when you have a caricature that shows a Jewish face, you are expressing antisemitism, not anti-Zionism. That means you are including the liberal Jewish university student who is fighting on your side! That is racial hatred. That is antisemitism.

Just as the Charlie Hebdo crowd attacked and potentially offended all Muslims instead of just attacking ISIS.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
The same can be said about french cartoonists charlie hebdo. They didnt differentiate extremists from muslims. Their cartoons was hatred against all muslims. But that is called freedom of expression right?
When the same thing happens with jews, it is labled as antisemitism.
Even criticism of the apartheid regime is labled as antisemitism.

Thats why iam saying Jews(Both zionists and non-zionists) are the new Gods of West.


Jews are the modern gods of west. They are put higher than God, Jesus pbuh or any religious figure in the christian world.
No, its not the same. Zionism is not extremist Judaism. Most Zionists are secular Jews.
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
@Tumah unfortunately u dont get it all. There is clear double standard in west favouring one group above others.
People can spit on christians muslims hindus buddists through cartoons, except not the new gods(jews).

All anti-israel activists are labled as antisemites. Even the Jewish professor from usa! He is called antisemite and jewish traitor!
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Just as the Charlie Hebdo crowd attacked and potentially offended all Muslims instead of just attacking ISIS.
This is not the same and I'm quite surprised that you can't see the difference. Zionism is not a form of Judaism. Zionism is an ideology. Judaism is a nation/religion. Zionism is not an expression of extremist Judaism. There are extremist Zionists and there are extremist Jews. They are not the same. Attacking Judaism is not an expression of attacking Zionist ideology.

Moderate Muslims though, share an ideology with extremist Muslims (namely the Qur'an) only on the more moderate side of the scale. But its the same scale. Attacking Isalm is an expression of attacking ISIS ideology (although it is also attacking moderate ones).

I am not saying being offensive is the right things to do, mind you. Just that you can't draw an analogy from the former to the latter.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
To protect all religions from hatred.
That is not possible in west because they took jews as their gods and whoever criticizes them becomes blasphemer.

So you want to protect all religions from hatred, but are less than complimentary towards Judaism, and indeed started this thread to complain that Judaism was receiving such protection.
Okay, well, regardless, If we ran through a few religions, how many of the following ten religious belief systems do you think are worthy of special protection in the way you are mentioning?
  • Islam
  • Raelism
  • Catholocism
  • Scientology
  • Luciferianism
  • Judaism
  • Stephen Tari's Black Jesus cult
  • Hindusim
  • The Prince Phillip Movement
  • Nuwaubianism
My answer would be 0/10.
You?
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Tumah and flanker are in favour of dismissing any cartoons about jews as antisemitism( the new holy commandment of the west).

The "Jew" in the first picture is an exact replica from 19th and 20th century "caricatures" about Jews. The face is exactly the same. Same nose, same eyebrows, same grin and same bald parts on the head.

But of course its just Anti-Zionist. Because why the **** not.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Lewisnotmiller, You left out Atheism, 0/11...............
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
The "Jew" in the first picture is an exact replica from 19th and 20th century "caricatures" about Jews. The face is exactly the same. Same nose, same eyebrows, same grin and same bald parts on the head.

But of course its just Anti-Zionist. Because why the **** not.

And this is different from the Charlie Hebdo racist caricature of the Prophet Mohammad how?????
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
And this is different from the Charlie Hebdo racist caricature of the Prophet Mohammad how?????

You do realise that the Mohammed on CH covers wasn't even portrayed as a bad person right? Though there is a cover where he actually looks like a baddie, but so does the Bishop and Jew next to him. And they are all drawn in exact the same way. Such cases.
As a matter of fact Mohammed was always drawn like any other person present on the cover on which he appeared.

Note how the "Jew" in OPs post doesn't look like the other people drawn? Probably nothing wrong with that. Its not like it has some kind of history.


The best part is that you live on the other side of the planet and I will never meet you.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Making cartoons about Zionists(and jews) is the new blasphemy in Europe. U can insult God and Jesus pbuh, but not the Jews! Dont criticize Israel or u will be labled as antisemite!


French cartoonist Zeon arrested for anti-Zionist work - Non-Aligned Media
I agree. Unless there is something I don't know, I can't see why these cartoons should have been censored or this man arrested. Pretty hypocritical of France. But, at least no one tried to kill him.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
I agree. Unless there is something I don't know, I can't see why these cartoons should have been censored or this man arrested. Pretty hypocritical of France. But, at least no one tried to kill him.
Well maybe they took the initiative to stave off Zionist extremist cells in France from shooting him?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Sorry, that was sarcasm. I've never heard of extremist Zionists in France or anywhere else around the world that go around killing people that make fun of them.
That's what I thought, but I didn't want to say anything because I am pretty far removed from that whole situation here in the US, and I didn't want to make a claim that was false. Thanks for clarifying though.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Last I checked anti semitism wasn't against the law, except maybe in Israel. Holocaust denial is against the law in some countries.

Sorry, that was sarcasm. I've never heard of extremist Zionists in France or anywhere else around the world that go around killing people that make fun of them.

Well then you haven't heard of Mossad!!!!
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Last I checked anti semitism wasn't against the law, except maybe in Israel. Holocaust denial is against the law in some countries.



Well then you haven't heard of Mossad!!!!
When did Mossad kill people for "making fun of them" as you claim? Not doubting you, but can you provide a source to back this up?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Last I checked anti semitism wasn't against the law, except maybe in Israel. Holocaust denial is against the law in some countries.



Well then you haven't heard of Mossad!!!!
It seems pretty hypocritical, but anti-semitism is illegal in France.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
These are almost all instances where crimes linked to anti semitic beliefs are against the law, not anti semitism itself. In the US it is called hate crime, hatred of Jews, Muslims, homosexuals etc linked to crimes.

Here, now you can check again.

Would you mind linking some cases of the Mossad killing people who make fun of them?

Well the most obvious would be the relatively peaceful (reformed) former leader of the PLO, Yassar Arafat.
 
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