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From 'born again' to agnostic

Luminous

non-existential luminary
Since God is God He makes the rules. If He requires faith then that is His right since He is the source of all things. Your question should be to Him and not me. I just play by the rules.
You don't know anything about IT.
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
The man that buys fire insurance may not have to use it, but he is still safer than the guy who says he doesn't need it.
The man that buys fire insurance has but a piece of paper and probably decided not to buy an extinguisher....please do not employ Pascal's wager; there are infinite possibilities, thus 100% chance that you are agnostic.
 

wally777

New Member
I know it's hard to live a christian life, but a person who was really been born again
cannot be an agnostic the next minute. Your faith is being tested, pls hold on to your faith. Believe in Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household, Acts 16:31

I recommend to you to read The case for Christ by Lee Strobel, it will really help you.
I will be praying for you, Brother or Sister!
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
Perception is ones truth. Your truth may be a lie

"your truth may be a lie?" how does that argue for anything? If you're talking about Agnosticism, you are wrong. Agnosticism is the Ultimate and Only self-evident Truth. There is no wrong in Occam's Razor.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
"your truth may be a lie?" how does that argue for anything? If you're talking about Agnosticism, you are wrong. Agnosticism is the Ultimate and Only self-evident Truth. There is no wrong in Occam's Razor.

Agnostic evolutionist? HMMMM:shrug:
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
I know it's hard to live a christian life, but a person who was really been born again
cannot be an agnostic the next minute. Your faith is being tested, pls hold on to your faith. Believe in Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household, Acts 16:31

I recommend to you to read The case for Christ by Lee Strobel, it will really help you.
I will be praying for you, Brother or Sister!

:rolleyes:
I know its hard to live an agnostic life, but a person who really understands truth cannot make claims for that which is outside their perception. Your dignity is being tested, please reach again for the truth. ummmmm....sorry i don't have any idol scripture to throw at you, but maybe you can check out the parable of the metallic cube. I will be praying for you!
 
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Luminous

non-existential luminary
Agnostic evolutionist? HMMMM:shrug:
What are you talking about? evolution is not dogma, it is science...SCIENCE IS AGNOSTIC. To truely understand and perform science, you need the agnostic spirit. And that is why God loves agnostics.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
What are you talking about? evolution is not dogma, it is science...SCIENCE IS AGNOSTIC. To truely understand and perform science, you need the agnostic spirit. And that is why God loves agnostics.

You said truth is not dependent on perception. So it really doesn't matter what you and I believe. What matters is the truth. As you insist, you are gambling that there is no God. I am gambling that there is. You had better hope you are right on your gamble.
 

The Neo Nerd

Well-Known Member
You said truth is not dependent on perception. So it really doesn't matter what you and I believe. What matters is the truth. As you insist, you are gambling that there is no God. I am gambling that there is. You had better hope you are right on your gamble.

Truth is the only important thing to you because it allows you to continue believing in your deity despite the lack of evidence. Which is fine.

If you want to show intelligence and maturity i suggest you make FACT important.

-Q
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
Truth is the only important thing to you because it allows you to continue believing in your deity despite the lack of evidence. Which is fine.

If you want to show intelligence and maturity i suggest you make FACT important.

-Q

Science spends millions every year on chance.
 

TinaLouise

New Member
Much careful study (and not only Bible study), thought, and caution should be used while contemplating the existence of God and whether or not a particular denomination or religion is "correct".

I was raised in a strict Christian home. We were all members of the Church of Christ to be exact. I veered from the beliefs I was raised with for a few years after leaving home. I even questioned the existence of God. I had to immerse myself in other beliefs before I finally realized what was correct.

Your soul's salvation is way more important than anything this world has to offer...and we will not be allowed to blame anything on our parents.
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
You said truth is not dependent on perception. So it really doesn't matter what you and I believe. What matters is the truth. As you insist, you are gambling that there is no God. I am gambling that there is. You had better hope you are right on your gamble.
Actually as i told you before, I believe that there IS God and that God Blesses me because I am Agnostic. That God has revealed to me truth...and that all those who are anti-agnostic will suffer horribly in hell for being blatant and obvious liars, its only a temporary punishment that you chose for yourself, the eternal consequences of anti-agnosticism are unknown. :)
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
Actually as i told you before, I believe that there IS God and that God Blesses me because I am Agnostic. That God has revealed to me truth...and that all those who are anti-agnostic will suffer horribly in hell for being blatant and obvious liars, its only a temporary punishment that you chose for yourself, the eternal consequences of anti-agnosticism are unknown. :)

So you believe in God and you believe in eternal punishment. And you are contending with me for believing the same. What logic
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
Doubters invert the metaphor and insist that they need faith as big as a mountain in order to move a mustard seed.


Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt. -Shakespeare
 
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