From JFK to RFK.

[metis]

RFK was called conspiracy theorist when he used to say: "They're going to kill me, after they killed my brother".
So...

RFK is my all-time favorite politician, especially after John's death that really shook him up big time.

BTW, I saw John Kennedy in 1960 when he was campaigning near where I lived, although I actually voted for Nixon in a straw poll at the high school I attended.

 

[Estro Felino]

RFK is my all-time favorite politician, especially after John's death that really shook him up big time.

Hopefully he can run as dem candidate, then

 

[SomeRandom]

I'm more interested in them having integrity and common sense.

The thing about common sense is that it’s surprisingly uncommon

 

[Nakosis]

IQ? He is anti-vaccine - surely that is enough.

To win? Maybe?
Imagine that, an anti-vaxxer democrat to unite the peoples.

 

[Father Heathen]

You probably haven't listened to RFK's speech in Milan, two years ago. Two hours of Conspiracy theories, conspiracy theories, conspiracy theories.

Well he's an anti-vax buffoon.

 

[Father Heathen]

In my opinion they are not theories.
He said the plain truth. I totally agree with him, 100%.

I meant that according to some democrats, his are conspiracy theories.

Why would you not factor in facts and logic?

 

[Estro Felino]

Well he's an anti-vax buffoon.

We are speaking of a person who takes the job of politician seriously.

Children's Health Defense - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Father Heathen]

To win? Maybe?
Imagine that, an anti-vaxxer democrat to unite the peoples.

Unity is great, but I would rather it not be beneath the umbrella of scientific illiteracy.

 

[Father Heathen]

We are speaking of a person who takes the job of politician seriously.

Children's Health Defense - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Being committed to stupidity isn't an admirable quality.

 

[PureX]

In order to be able to run as Dem candidate, a politician is supposed to receive the Sorosian hallmark. Sorosian approval.
Has RFK received it?

No one will tell. But I very much doubt it. So far as I can tell, the democrats have already decided to run Biden again, unless he dies or something. So no other candidate is a serious contender. They are "pretend" contenders, meant to try and keep the democratic voters thinking that they have a say. They don't. There are a lot of democratic voters that think Biden is far too much like any traditional republican. And that's true. He is. So to have someone that is to the right of him pretend to run against him in the primary and lose maybe gives the voters the impression that Biden is more left-leaning than he actually is.

When Sanders ran against Hillary in that democratic primary in 2016, Bernie's rallies would get 20,000 people to show up while Hillary's rallies would maybe get 2.000. Consistently. But it didn't matter. The Democratic Party was going to run Hillary Clinton for president no matter how many democratic voters wanted Bernie. That's how they are. And it's why they lost that year.

This time they are intent or running Biden again, and it's not going to matter who opposes him in the primary because they've already made up their minds. The only thing that will change that is if Biden physically cannot run.

 

[Nakosis]

Unity is great, but I would rather it not be beneath the umbrella of scientific illiteracy.

Well, ideally, but perhaps you got to start somewhere to meet in the middle.

 

[metis]

but we should The Democratic Party was going to run Hillary Clinton for president no matter how many democratic voters wanted Bernie. That's how they are. And it's why they lost that year.

I was and still am not a fan of Hillary [or Bill for that matter], but we should remember that she actually got more votes than Trump-- although that's not much consolation. I'm in the "feel the Bern" camp, but my fear was that if he won the nomination the Pubs would constantly scream "socialism" ad nauseum. Since most Americans don't seem to understand much about the various forms of socialism [he's a proponent of Scandinavian socialism as you're probably aware of], I think he would have likely "died on the vine", sorta speak.

Sorry to interrupt.

 

[fantome profane]

but my fear was that if he won the nomination the Pubs would constantly scream "socialism" ad nauseum

But they did anyway. Doesn’t matter who the Dems nominate, the pubs will call them a socialist, or communist. It the Dems nominate Joe Mansion the Pubs will call him a communist.

 

[Revoltingest]

Were it not for his anti-vaccine and conspiracy theories I might find him agreeable as a President.

That's enuf to indicate serious mental difficulty.
But if he ran against Trump, it would be another
lesser-of-2-evils vote to ponder.

 

[metis]

But they did anyway. Doesn’t matter who the Dems nominate, the pubs will call them a socialist, or communist. It the Dems nominate Joe Mansion the Pubs will call him a communist.

You obviously are right.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I'm thinking he might find some compromise that will get the rusty and neglected political wheel turning again.

Perhaps, but given the possibility of another potentially worse pandemic, I would prefer a leader capable of following the advice of the medical community over conspiracy theories and a few dissenting doctors.

The idea he's a Kennedy is somehow encouraging.

Great! Personally, I am not going to give the name recognition over the individual. It feels too much like buying into the idea of a dynasty.

 

[PureX]

I was and still am not a fan of Hillary [or Bill for that matter], but we should remember that she actually got more votes than Trump-- although that's not much consolation. I'm in the "feel the Bern" camp, but my fear was that if he won the nomination the Pubs would constantly scream "socialism" ad nauseum. Since most Americans don't seem to understand much about the various forms of socialism [he's a proponent of Scandinavian socialism as you're probably aware of], I think he would have likely "died on the vine", sorta speak.

Sorry to interrupt.

All true, but Bernie seems to be quite good at explaining himself in very reasonable and un-hyperbolic terms. He also seems to be very good at dealing with republican extremist idiocy. And anyway, the people that buy into that stuff were never going to vote for any democrat, anyway. All Bernie (or Hillary for that matter) had to win over were the moderate swing voters. And I think Bernie would have been able to do that handily, especially in relation to Hillary.

But it didn't matter. The Party was going to run Hillary regardless. Very reminiscent of the Republican Party's dead determination to run G.W. Bush instead of John McCain who was far, FAR more popular. I'm a democrat and even I would have seriously considered voting for John McCain in that election. But popularity was irrelevant. They were only going to run a political puppet that they knew they could control. And John McCain was not a republican puppet. At least not at that time. They broke and humiliated him soon thereafter, though.

Just as Bernie Sanders is not a democratic puppet.

When it comes down to it, neither party cares who 'we the people' want them to run. They are only going to run their own "yes-men". No boat-rockers allowed. Well, except for Trump. The republicans lost control of their own party with him. Still haven't got it back.

 

[Estro Felino]

No one will tell. But I very much doubt it. So far as I can tell, the democrats have already decided to run Biden again, unless he dies or something. So no other candidate is a serious contender. They are "pretend" contenders, meant to try and keep the democratic voters thinking that they have a say. They don't. There are a lot of democratic voters that think Biden is far too much like any traditional republican. And that's true. He is. So to have someone that is to the right of him pretend to run against him in the primary and lose maybe gives the voters the impression that Biden is more left-leaning than he actually is.

When Sanders ran against Hillary in that democratic primary in 2016, Bernie's rallies would get 20,000 people to show up while Hillary's rallies would maybe get 2.000. Consistently. But it didn't matter. The Democratic Party was going to run Hillary Clinton for president no matter how many democratic voters wanted Bernie. That's how they are. And it's why they lost that year.

This time they are intent or running Biden again, and it's not going to matter who opposes him in the primary because they've already made up their minds. The only thing that will change that is if Biden physically cannot run.

That was exactly my point: evidently Sanders hadn't received the hallmark. Mrs Rodham did.

 

[We Never Know]

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I hope for the best and for his safety.

The Kennedys don't seem to last long in politics givin the history of what had happened to the Kennedy family prior.

For a Democrat, I'm hoping he's a bluedog Democrat. That would be ideal from the extremists we have in government today but I don't know much about him aside his controversial views regarding Covid vaccines.



Wish I knew what his IQ is.

Anyone that votes for Biden again is not looking ahead. He is 80 years old and already stumbling and bumbling when he walks and talks.

Don't know much about RFK but 69 is better than 80

 

[SomeRandom]

Anyone that votes for Biden again is not looking ahead. He is 80 years old and already stumbling and bumbling when he walks and talks.

Don't know much about RFK but 69 is better than 80

To be fair, that describes many politicians lol
Though I agree that we (I’m including my country as well) need fresh blood in politics.