From where did the "wives" of Cain and Abel come?

[Twilight Hue]

Eve's womb.

Who? If the Bible isn't a book of gaps then Christians should know the answer I would think.

 

[Twilight Hue]

"Eve was the mother of all the living" from Genesis

The answer is they were also children of Adam and Even and there was no prohibition against that yet as the gene pool did not break down sufficiently to make that dangerous yet. The breakdown being a result of the fall.

I'd ask you the same thing, how come there are no daughters of Eve that where ever mentioned in the Bible? Who are they?

 

[nPeace]

Who? If the Bible isn't a book of gaps then Christians should know the answer I would think.

Huh? What are you trying to say, other than you don't believe the Bible? Which is quite okay.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Huh? What are you trying to say, other than you don't believe the Bible? Which is quite okay.

Well we have two brothers Cain and Abel.

Who are Cain and Abel's sisters?

 

[nPeace]

I'd ask you the same thing, how come there are no daughters of Eve that where ever mentioned in the Bible? Who are they?

The same reason the Bible does not tell us the names of every creature, their appearance, and all the other details that were unnecessary - unless you want a book that the world could not contain.
(John 21:25) . . .if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose the world itself could not contain the scrolls written.

 

[nPeace]

Well we have two brothers Cain and Abel.

Who are Cain and Abel's sisters?

Who are Cain's, Abel's, and Seph's brothers?
@Nowhere Man (Genesis 5:4) . . .After becoming father to Seth, Adam lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters.
No details are given, as there were not important to the history.

 

[nPeace]

I do think the versions or...insistence of a certain view based on adding in extra assumptions and details not in the text, and claiming that's what the text definitely means, instead of admitting it's only an idea about what might have happened -- those insisted claims the text says or clearly implies ideas/assumptions X, Y, Z when it actually does not, and actually X,Y,Z are just a viewpoint in reality, even no matter how widespread or how old...that tendency is very destructive to many with faith, in that they are being told scripture is different than it is. I don't mean a few easy examples, such as Flat Earth, but broadly all sorts of such doctrinal ideas groups have come up with, including old ones around for centuries or millennia also (e.g. the Sadducees are an easy example).

Regardless of who gets their guesses about unspecified small details correct, ultimately those guesses (even the correct ones) don't really matter, not in the most important way. Why? Because the only good reading is the one where someone sets aside all of the ideas and positions and assumptions, and just really listens, like a person might trying to get a great work of poetry (that same openness), in order to really hear the real messages. For instance in Genesis chapter 1 one of the real messages is repeated several times, but that is only helpful to clue us in that there are definitely and clearly real messages that have powerful effects on those that really listen in silent hearing that are not at all about small details not being addressed.

In other words, a person preoccupied about how much time passed as the *main* or *central* issue (instead of seeing it as merely an interesting side issue that is beside the point of the scripture) is totally lost and not even understanding at all. That attitude would be reading it in a way similar to an anti-religious person for instance, that only has an exterior motive (such as to prove their own exterior view), and doesn't listen. Those that don't listen totally miss all that's being said, even if they know the words.

I understand. In other words nit picking at trivial matters, rather than getting the main message.
I was only really thinking of persons who could be easily misled by people who used these as a means of deceptively swaying such persons. However, I suppose that would still depend on how much that person is listening, as you put it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The same reason the Bible does not tell us the names of every creature, their appearance, and all the other details that were unnecessary - unless you want a book that the world could not contain.
(John 21:25) . . .if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose the world itself could not contain the scrolls written.

Then why was Cain and Abel mentioned as being relevant? You think their wives would have been just as noteworthy. If I remember correctly, genealogy was considered very important given the extensive lists that are involved in the Old Testament.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Who are Cain's, Abel's, and Seph's brothers?
@Nowhere Man (Genesis 5:4) . . .After becoming father to Seth, Adam lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters.
No details are given, as there were not important to the history.

It would be interesting to note with a little research I find the book of Jubilees has the name of Cain's sister and wife. According to the narrative, she is called Awan . However Christians don't recognize it as canonical in spite of the account being the same alleged time.

It tells me the Christian Bible remains a book of gaps which clearly has omissions and for some strange reason stops the genealogy after Cain and Abel and picks up later with Noah, of which his family and Sons and Daughters were readily mentioned.

 

[nPeace]

Then why was Cain and Abel mentioned as being relevant? You think their wives would have been just as noteworthy. If I remember correctly, genealogy was considered very important given the extensive lists that are involved in the Old Testament.

No. Cain and Abel were specifically mentioned because Cain was the first of Adam's offspring to follow his father (not Adam... see 1 John 3), and commit murder. Abel was the first of Adam's offspring to be a faithful witness in God's will and purpose. There were both examples for modern day servants of God, hence they were deliberately established in the record. (Luke 11:51; Hebrews 11:4; 12:24; 1 John 3:9-12; Jude 11)
Seth was put in the record, due to genealogy, or lineage.

 

[nPeace]

It would be interesting to note with a little research I find the book of Jubilees has the name of Cain's sister and wife. According to the narrative, she is called Awan . However Christians don't recognize it as canonical in spite of the account being the same alleged time.

It tells me the Christian Bible remains a book of gaps which clearly has omissions and for some strange reason stops the genealogy after Cain and Abel and picks up later with Noah, of which his family and Sons and Daughters were readily mentioned.

It is true that there were many writings that did not qualify to be in the Canon, but there is good reason, and they do not make skeptics any wiser. Even if they were included, skeptic would only nit pick even more. We have all we need, I am sure. The message of the Bible speaks to this fact.
Persons appreciate that the Bible is authored by God, simply by using a few books to understand Revelation, and one can see the connection between Genesis and Revelation with just a few passages. Whereas, the in between books, smooth out any gaps.

Skeptics will obviously see gaps because their a priori is that the Bible is not worth their salt, so how will they understand that the Bible has no equal where a harmonious thread is concerned.
There will be no end to nit picking at it though... at least for the time being.

 

[paarsurrey]

Yet the bible says Eve was the first woman and Adam the first man who were directly formed and created by God Personally. Not sure what parts of the bible your religion chooses to accept or not, I guess whatever suits your interests and beliefs. I seem to recall that Gabriel the angel in the bible was supposedly involved in your belief system. So you cherry pick Scripture to fit your wishes.

Quran comes to the help of Bible, by explaining things. Those parts of Bible that are not against Quran are to be accepted by us and defended by us, while those ones of Bible that are against Quran are to be defended by Bible believers who think that Bible is an inerrant word. Right, please?

Regards
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[2:5]وَ الَّذِیۡنَ یُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ بِمَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ اِلَیۡکَ وَ مَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ مِنۡ قَبۡلِکَ ۚ وَ بِالۡاٰخِرَۃِ ہُمۡ یُوۡقِنُوۡنَ ؕ﴿۵﴾
And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee, and that which was revealed before thee, and they have firm faith in what is yet to come.
[2:6]اُولٰٓئِکَ عَلٰی ہُدًی مِّنۡ رَّبِّہِمۡ ٭ وَ اُولٰٓئِکَ ہُمُ الۡمُفۡلِحُوۡنَ ﴿۶﴾
It is they who follow the guidance of their Lord and it is they who shall prosper.
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 2: Al-Baqarah

 

[dad]

Quran comes to the help of Bible, by explaining things.

Directly contradicting and opposing something is not explaining it, it is disrespecting, violating, changing, and twisting it to conform to their prefences and beliefs.

Those parts of Bible that are not against Quran are to be accepted by us and defended by us,

Picking and choosing then.

while those ones of Bible that are against Quran are to be defended by Bible believers who think that Bible is an inerrant word. Right, please?

Nothing in the bible can be said to 'be against' books written much later than it.

The correct phrasing is that the books written later than Scripture oppose Scripture vehemently. You can't write a book, then turn around and claim that the bible is against it. The book you wrote would be against the bible.

 

[whirlingmerc]

I'd ask you the same thing, how come there are no daughters of Eve that where ever mentioned in the Bible? Who are they?

In Genesis most daughters are not mentioned. An example would be the births of the 12 sons of Jacob who became tribes... but... they had a sister Dinah who was their sister but who's birth was not mentioned

(however Job in contrast even gave an inheritance to his 3 daughters with their 7 brothers.)

 

[halbhh]

I understand. In other words nit picking at trivial matters, rather than getting the main message.
I was only really thinking of persons who could be easily misled by people who used these as a means of deceptively swaying such persons. However, I suppose that would still depend on how much that person is listening, as you put it.

Yes, in that if I've listened truly, with a true quiet mind, truly listening, then I've heard the real messages (if I am humble and have faith and truly listened), and so then I've gotten the real points, the actual reason for the chapter(s) -- so that when person X comes along and says whatever irrelevant thing about 'God created in seven days' (ok, maybe it's not fair to use the worst possible example....), or less bad, but still totally missing it and saying 'God created the world in 6 days' (at least they got the number of days right, if nothing else at all)...then I don't feel I have to agree with them or believe them. I can believe the scripture instead of that person that didn't listen, that missed the real messages. I have something invaluable instead of just their assumptions, misreading or ideology. Then the best I can do is love them and try to help them to realize they are missing the real treasure.

 

[JesusKnowsYou]

From where did the "wives" of Cain and Abel come?

How were THEY created?

I don't know why the Genesis account does not mention the other children of Adam and Eve, but many other books that claim to be scripture mention that they had children, other sons and daughters, both before and after Cain.

One account even claims that one of the sources of Cain's animosity toward Abel was the fact that Cain wanted the daughter that had been promised to Abel.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I though this was interesting.....Talks about Mitochondrial Eve....

Adam Eve: Fact or Fiction?

If you wish to learn about "mitochondrial eve", you might want to look for an actual scientific source.

Mitochondrial Eve / Y-chromosome Adam: extremely likely that it's not about what you think it is about.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

English, German, Dutch and Swedish likewise are in their own family of European languages: Germanic.

We English speakers easily recognize "willkommen".

Or "welkom" in dutch.

German has "Telefonnummer" and we have "telephone number" but both those terms come from a combination of Latin and Greek roots.

Or "telefoonnummer" in dutch.
And yes, in languages, you get quite some "leakage" of certain words from neighbouring cultures. There's also the fact that romans occupied germanic territory for quite some time.

Over at our "language border" in the middle of belgium, there's also lots of french words that have been "bastardized" into dutch dialects. Some of which over time have become official "belgian dutch" (aka "flemmish") words.

Like "trottoir" for sidewalk. It's written a bit differently, but in spoken word, it's sounds exactly like the french say it.

This is the equivalent of the phenomenon of "horizontal gene transfer" in genetics.
Only in languages it happens a lot more, because there are not physicial restrictions in place that can prevent it from happening.

 

[firedragon]

From where did the "wives" of Cain and Abel come?

How were THEY created?

What if the two accounts of "Man" in the Genesis account meant man was created earlier than the other man, the father of cain and able?

If that is the case, he may have had offspring.

 

[101G]

What if the two accounts of "Man" in the Genesis account meant man was created earlier than the other man, the father of cain and able?

If that is the case, he may have had offspring.

not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this, 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." so there was not two Adams from the begining.

but something to think about. the only Adam was formed on day 3, and on day 6 was made into the male and female, hence two adam, but from the first Adam.

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