Gabbard nominated as Director of National Intelligence

[Estro Felino]

False, you care that putin gets Ukraine and wins the war he started. You are all in for authoritarain leaders, distators.

Ukraine is a huge country...if it loses some regions, they will survive.

False. Democrats and many republicans have valued the democracy that Ukraine has built from its corrupt, pro-Russia government. The USA has supported this democracy against a dictator who is failing in his war.

I remind you that many leftists in America are pacifists...and they fled, disgusted, from the warlike-primitive Democratic Party...
voting for Trump out of vengeance.

Then appeal for Russia to withdraw their troops from Ukraine. You won't, and that means you still want war.

It doesn't depend on me.
I want a ceasefire now. Today. They must stop fighting and promote a hiatus for peace talks.

False. America supports the Ukraine military in their efforts to defend their nation against the invasion of Russia.

Ukraine is not in the NATO. So NATO is a third party that should promote peace instead of war.

 

[Estro Felino]

It's a repeat of his first term.
Reckless appointments.
But when one suffers from Grandiose Narcissism,
one's focus is internal rather than external.

Grandiosity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Reality will never trump love for the leader.

One question: do you want American soldiers to fight in stupid and idiotic wars in territories that are thousands of miles away from the US?

 

[F1fan]

Ukraine is a huge country...if it loses some regions, they will survive.

And that happened because you are pro-war. I've never seen you demand that Russia gives back what it took from it's invasion. You can't have oit both ways.

I remind you that many leftists in America are pacifists...and they fled, disgusted, from the warlike-primitive Democratic Party...
voting for Trump out of vengeance.

You support authoritarian leaders, and that is why you oppose democrats. Democrats support democracy, you don't.

It doesn't depend on me.
I want a ceasefire now. Today. They must stop fighting and promote a hiatus for peace talks.

You want putin to win something from his invasion. No. He needs to withdraw his troops. You can't even bring yourself to say what you think about this. You claim to not want war, but you don't have a problem with putin benefitting from war. That makes you pro-war whether you admit it or not.

If you were really against war you would not support any invader from benefitting from it. You don't. That makes you a hypocrit. You can't have it both ways.

Ukraine is not in the NATO. So NATO is a third party that should promote peace instead of war.

Ukraine has stated an intent to join. And there has been members of NATO who say Ukraine can join. That they aren't in NATO yet doesn't mean this democracy doesn't deserve support from a dictator. Jusy because putin is too incompetent to defeat Ukraine doesn't mean he deserves the territory he has occupied. putin's legacy is ruined, just like Trump's. You are on the side of losers.

 

[F1fan]

One question: do you want American soldiers to fight in stupid and idiotic wars in territories that are thousands of miles away from the US?

Look at you trying to deflect. Why not just admit you can't defend your support for putin and Trump's violence against democracies?

 

[Stevicus]

Exactly...
deep inside they do believe Ukrainians can be considered "disposable" as cannon fodder because "the end justified the means".

When Putin came to Rome...and we rolled red carpets at him...he sounded like he was the one victimized by the West because of Crimea.

Yes, I do find it interesting that armchair warriors in the West think that Ukraine should hold at all costs and fight to the last man, yet within Ukraine itself, there are videos showing press gangs going around and pulling young men off the streets, sometimes kicking and screaming, as they ship them off to war. Some over there don't seem to want to fight to the last man.

I think that taking sides belongs to the soccer-fans- world
I mean...I love Israelis and all Arabs equally...so why should I support a war between them?

As a general principle, I agree that a country is better off to stay somewhat detached and not play favorites among other nations. That's something that George Washington warned about in his Farewell Address. Some people like to toss around terms like "Russophilia" and "Russian propaganda" so casually, but subscribing to the ideals laid down by George Washington can not possibly be considered "Russian propaganda" or anything to do with Russia at all.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I want peace.

Hence your respectful silence when it comes to the Wagner Group and your peace-loving Kim Jong Un. And given your euphoria about Gabbard, you must be near orgasmic to hear that ...

50,000 Russian and North Korean Troops Mass Ahead of Attack, U.S. Says

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes, I do find it interesting that armchair warriors in the West think that Ukraine should hold at all costs and fight to the last man, yet within Ukraine itself, there are videos showing press gangs going around and pulling young men off the streets, sometimes kicking and screaming, as they ship them off to war. Some over there don't seem to want to fight to the last man.

I already knew that.
There are German videos of Ukrainians who say they are fleeing from a dictatorship that forces them to fight a war against their will.
Even Italy has been welcoming lots of Ukrainians as refugees. Political refugees.

And Kiev and its infinite mercilessness has demanded that we send these refugees back...so they can employ them in the army.

As a general principle, I agree that a country is better off to stay somewhat detached and not play favorites among other nations. That's something that George Washington warned about in his Farewell Address. Some people like to toss around terms like "Russophilia" and "Russian propaganda" so casually, but subscribing to the ideals laid down by George Washington can not possibly be considered "Russian propaganda" or anything to do with Russia at all.

The funny thing is that I cannot find any difference between Ukrainians and Russians.
They are very similar nations and I love them both.
So I just want them to stop fighting.

 

[Estro Felino]

Look at you trying to deflect. Why not just admit you can't defend your support for putin and Trump's violence against democracies?

I love US soldiers.
So does Gabbard.
I want them to live.
Not to be sacrificed in pointless wars programmed by the MIC cabal.

 

[F1fan]

I love US soldiers.
So does Gabbard.
I want them to live.
Not to be sacrificed in pointless wars programmed by the MIC cabal.

You don't love the Russia soldiers being sent into Ukraine, and dying, just to steal their democracy for putin?

 

[RestlessSoul]

So John Bolton has said “Up until a few hours ago, I would have said that Tulsi Gabbard was the worst Cabinet appointment in recent American history. Since Matt Gaetz’s appointment, he clearly has taken the lead on that score.”

I know this should be no laughing matter, but from this side of the Pond, it actually sort of is

 

[Estro Felino]

You don't love the Russia soldiers being sent into Ukraine, and dying, just to steal their democracy for putin?

Duh...
that is why I want this war to terminate today.

 

[F1fan]

Duh...
that is why I want this war to terminate today.

Do you agree that putin should not have invaded Ukraine, since you don't like war?

 

[Estro Felino]

Do you agree that putin should not have invaded Ukraine, since you don't like war?

As a consequence of the Donbas War.
But he just wants those 4 regions. Let's give them to him, and let's terminate this pointless war. And move on.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I care about Ukrainians.

lol, no you don't.

I do want them to stop fighting this stupid and idiotic war, and to hug their enemies.

Ukrainians won't be hugging the Russian aggressors in their country, except perhaps traitors and collaborators.
This is like saying 90 years ago "I want Belgians and the French to stop fighting this stupid and idiotic war and to hug the nazi's instead"

The dems just use them as cannon fodder against Putin.

Nobody ordered them to resist the invasion and defend their country.
Ukrainians decided to do that.

And serious military aid only came after months of Ukrainians begging for it. And even then even only a fraction of what they were asking for.

Be serious. Your revisionism is embarassing

 

[Estro Felino]

Hence your respectful silence when it comes to the Wagner Group and your peace-loving Kim Jong Un. And given your euphoria about Gabbard, you must be near orgasmic to hear that ...

50,000 Russian and North Korean Troops Mass Ahead of Attack, U.S. Says

If Hussein Obama had tried to keep the alliance with Russia, Russia would have never chosen NK as partner.

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/24/politics/obama-europe-trip/index.html

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I want peace. And that is achievable if the two parties find a compromise.

Here's the problem: the aggressor isn't actually interested in a compromise.
They are only interested in achieving their imperialistic /militaristic goals.

The winning/ losing thing is something that I outgrew in the kindergarten.

Yeah, real life doesn't work like that.
Russia winning means disaster for Ukrainians and Ukrainian liberty.

If you actually cared about Ukrainians, you'ld support them in their fight to defend their country, sovereignty, liberty and democracy.
But you don't. You're happy just giving the tyrant what he wants while ignoring the victims.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

The difference appears to be in perceptions. I'm not sure who "cares" about what, but from what I can tell, the people who oppose Putin do so not because they care so much about Ukraine, but because they "believe" that Putin is planning to conquer other nations, possibly all of Europe and maybe even the entire world.

Nope.

 

[Estro Felino]

Here's the problem: the aggressor isn't actually interested in a compromise.
They are only interested in achieving their imperialistic /militaristic goals.




Yeah, real life doesn't work like that.
Russia winning means disaster for Ukrainians and Ukrainian liberty.

If you actually cared about Ukrainians, you'ld support them in their fight to defend their country, sovereignty, liberty and democracy.
But you don't. You're happy just giving the tyrant what he wants while ignoring the victims.

Are you in good faith?
You are from the EU so you perfectly know how many Ukrainians are fleeing from the dictatorial regime of Kiev, because the latter forces them to fight this war against their will. And are welcomed as refugees in Germany, Italy etc...

In 1940s the Americans saved us from the Nazis, and the king signed an armistice with them because Italians were sick and tired of keeping fighting a lost war.

The Ukrainians are fighting a lost war against their will.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Ukraine is a huge country...if it loses some regions, they will survive.

Russia is an even more huge country. If it doesn't get some pieces of another pie, they will survive.

I remind you that many leftists in America are pacifists...and they fled, disgusted, from the warlike-primitive Democratic Party...
voting for Trump out of vengeance.

Likely brainwashed by the same propaganda that you swallow up whole.
Like this Baggard person on social media sharing conspiracy junk about how Russia invaded Ukraine because supposedly Ukraine was developing biological weapons with the US to use on Russia.

Or how she went to talk with the warcriminal Assad claiming he didn't use any chemical weapons despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

It doesn't depend on me.

Neither does it depend on you that NATO supports Ukraine, but you seem very fine demanding they stop doing that nonetheless.

I want a ceasefire now. Today. They must stop fighting and promote a hiatus for peace talks.

And yet, you only ever ask for Ukraine to lay down its weapons while not uttering a word about Russia's constant bombing of civilian and energy infrastructure all over the country and plenty of other war crimes.

Ukraine is not in the NATO. So NATO is a third party that should promote peace instead of war.

NATO tried. Russia invaded anyway.

Where's your outrage of North Korean soldiers joining the fight?

 

[Stevicus]

Nope.

That's it? Just "nope"?