Gabbard nominated as Director of National Intelligence

[Watchmen]

We probably do. But I prefer to focus on what actually makes a difference to America and Americans and that doesn't include gossip, innuendo, propaganda, irrelevant things. For instance, Trump intends to repeat all the good things he accomplished in his first term and improve on them. And with four years' experience under his belt he knows better now how to get it done. I think Tulsi as National Intelligence chief is likely a very good choice and could yield some very good things.

If J.D. Vance turns out to be an effective and competent apprentice President, we might have as much as 12 years of the MAGA vision that could accomplish the reforms needed

We cannot continue as we have been the last four years.

What “good things” did Trump accomplish his first four years?

What terrible things have happened under Biden?

I’m a moderate independent….some might say an old school liberal, and I’m legitimately curious about your responses.

 

[Estro Felino]

What “good things” did Trump accomplish his first four years?

Peace in the Mediterranean Area.
World peace.
Diplomacy with North Korea.

What terrible things have happened under Biden?

Someone destroyed the two pipelines belonging to the Germans.
This means that it was an administration that hates Europeans.
Ukrainian War, instead of the use of diplomacy.

I’m a moderate independent….some might say an old school liberal, and I’m legitimately curious about your responses.

Me too.
But no democrat voter wants to debate with me.
Will you?

 

[Watchmen]

We probably do. But I prefer to focus on what actually makes a difference to America and Americans and that doesn't include gossip, innuendo, propaganda, irrelevant things. For instance, Trump intends to repeat all the good things he accomplished in his first term and improve on them. And with four years' experience under his belt he knows better now how to get it done. I think Tulsi as National Intelligence chief is likely a very good choice and could yield some very good things.

If J.D. Vance turns out to be an effective and competent apprentice President, we might have as much as 12 years of the MAGA vision that could accomplish the reforms needed

We cannot continue as we have been the last four years.

What “good things” did Trump accomplish his first four years?

What terrible things have happened under Biden?

I’m a moderate independent….some might say an old school liberal, and I’m legitimately curious about your responses.

Peace in the Mediterranean Area.
World peace.
Diplomacy with North Korea.

Someone destroyed the two pipelines belonging to the Germans.
This means that it was an administration that hates Europeans.
Ukrainian War, instead of the use of diplomacy.

Me too.
But no democrat voter wants to debate with me.
Will you?

I’m not a Democrat. But I also have no interest in debating someone who regularly posts fascist propaganda.

 

[Estro Felino]

I’m not a Democrat. But I also have no interest in debating someone who regularly posts fascist propaganda.

I guess this intransigence towards dialogue led to Trump's victory.

 

[Watchmen]

I guess this intransigence towards dialogue led to Trump's victory.

Not what we’re talking about.

 

[Estro Felino]

Not what we’re talking about.

Ok...let's try visual.

Gabbard: Let's speak of disastrous foreign policy signed Hillary Clinton and Obama.
Democrats: I won't speak of that.

"I won't speak of that" pushed many pacifists to vote for Trump.

Sometimes we vote out of hatred and vengeance. Against the party that betrayed us.

 

[Watchmen]

Ok...let's try visual.

Gabbard: Let's speak of disastrous foreign policy signed Hillary Clinton and Obama.
Democrats: I won't speak of that.

"I won't speak of that" pushed many pacifists to vote for Trump.

Sometimes we vote out of hatred and vengeance. Against the party that betrayed us.

Again, you jumped into my post that wasn’t directed to you and now you’re talking nonsense. I’ll wait for the person I actually posed the questions to to respond rather than listen to fascist posts.

 

[Watchmen]

What “good things” did Trump accomplish his first four years?

What terrible things have happened under Biden?

I’m a moderate independent….some might say an old school liberal, and I’m legitimately curious about your responses.

#foxfire. This is for you. I look forward to your response.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I did not say Obama created ISIS .. silly strawman nonsense.

Correct, my mistake. Many others have said that Obama created it though.
But anyhow, it is not true either.

You accused another poster of loving tyrants and dictators .. as if this has some relevance to Tulsi Gabbard. .. Ad hom fallacy on steroids

No, first it wasn't me who said that. I merely agreed with it since it is supported by lots of evidence.
Secondly, the statement had not much to do with Gabbard either, so it wasn't an ad hom.
You might want to look up what an ad hom is also.

Second you claim "Pro Ukraine" .. and you are a Biden supporter

Who said I'm a Biden supportor?

.. Ukraine is run by a dictator

No, Ukraine is run by a democratically elected president.

.. Genocide Joe is tyrant .. war criminal - Holocaust supporter . and so on

Talk about ad homs
And none of this is even true.

and last .. that someone does not support spending treasure on Ukraine .. ..does not make one a Putin Supporter

Depends on the reason for not sending help, off course.
It just so happens that those who are against it, also seem to be the ones who like to be friends with Mr Putin and / or who look up to him.

but all that aside .. the primary point here is your Ad Hom fallacy

There wasn't any ad hom.

... and ridiculous nonsense about Tulsi being a Russian Hero

Nobody said she was a Russian hero. Your reading comprehension needs serious work.

Now that we have dispensed with the idea that name calling is an argument for something .. or crying out "Tulsi is a hero to Russia" - not a USA Patriot .. givine no substantiation for unsupported claim

Gabbard shared conspiracy nonsense on social media which came straight from Russian propaganda channels. She cozied up with Assad also.
Head of intelligence who can't even differentiate sheer propaganda from actual intelligence. "good choice".

Tulsi is a hero to the people .. wanted the tyrant and war criminal Biden to stop arming the 911 terrorist Group Al Qaeda -- and spawn .. the "Islamic State"

Regardless of what other things she did. As said above, if you think it's a good idea to put a person in charge as head of intelligence who can't even see the difference between actual intelligence and sheer propaganda from dictators - go right ahead. It will not end well though.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I hope Gabbard is right, and the Trump administration will not enrich themselves more than the normal Americans.

To anyone who believes that, I have a bridge for sale.

 

[Estro Felino]

To anyone who believes that, I have a bridge for sale.

In Flanders?
Is it an ancient bridge?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

In Flanders?
Is it an ancient bridge?

No, it's a land bridge to lala-land

 

[Estro Felino]

No, it's a land bridge to lala-land

I have told you many times.
To come to Rome...
so we can meet, and you can talk to random Italians who will tell you that they choose Putin over Soros.
I am sorry for your Sorosized country...yes, they will tell you how sorry they are.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I have told you many times.
To come to Rome...
so we can meet, and you can talk to random Italians who will tell you that they choose Putin over Soros.
I am sorry for your Sorosized country...yes, they will tell you how sorry they are.

Not interested

 

[Sargonski]

Correct, my mistake. Many others have said that Obama created it though.
But anyhow, it is not true either.



No, first it wasn't me who said that. I merely agreed with it since it is supported by lots of evidence.
Secondly, the statement had not much to do with Gabbard either, so it wasn't an ad hom.
You might want to look up what an ad hom is also.



Who said I'm a Biden supportor?



No, Ukraine is run by a democratically elected president.



Talk about ad homs
And none of this is even true.



Depends on the reason for not sending help, off course.
It just so happens that those who are against it, also seem to be the ones who like to be friends with Mr Putin and / or who look up to him.



There wasn't any ad hom.



Nobody said she was a Russian hero. Your reading comprehension needs serious work.



Gabbard shared conspiracy nonsense on social media which came straight from Russian propaganda channels. She cozied up with Assad also.
Head of intelligence who can't even differentiate sheer propaganda from actual intelligence. "good choice".


Regardless of what other things she did. As said above, if you think it's a good idea to put a person in charge as head of intelligence who can't even see the difference between actual intelligence and sheer propaganda from dictators - go right ahead. It will not end well though.

What a big pile of ragign falsehood and fallacy .. running around crying "not True" but failing to provide support for all these vapid claims and accusations.

Where is your support that Tulsi is a lover of a tyrant and dictators ... false nonsense on steroids .. then you claim no one called her a Russian Hero when you just did above .. as that is what the poster you were happily agreeing with said. in addition to all this other "Russia Russia BS" propaganda you clearly gulped down unawares ..

Then you falsely claim that Genocide Joe ... and self proclaimed Zionist is not supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. ??? Not sure what planet you live on friend but on earth .. USA is giving military and financial support .. to Israel .. whilst commiting a Holocaust .. in violation of US Law ...

Your assertions are preposterously false .. your logic nowhere to be found .. being Anti War .. does not make one a supporter of those we are planning to Attack. Claiming it was a blunder to attack Iraq .. did not mean one was a supporter of Al Qaeda ..

This kind of thinking is prepostrously false and illogical nonsense .. but we see it all the time among the low information crowd 12 years of school and we manage not to teach the basics of Philosophy 101 -- logic, logical fallacy .. what constitutes a valid argument .. and so do not feel too silly if you were sucked in by state propagandsa doublespeak ..

 

[Revoltingest]

Peace in the Mediterranean Area.

His policies regarding Israel failed to bring peace.
Apartheid & violence continued, as Hamas built
up infrastructure to launch its attack.

World peace.

Oh, really?
A sampling...
US war in Afghanistan.
War in Darfur.
S Thailand insurgency
Kurdish separatism in Iran
Niger Delta
Paraguay insurgency
Fatah-Hamas conflict
Mexican drug war
Somali civil war
Sudanese nomadic conflicts
Boko Haram
S Yemen insurgency
The list goes on.

Diplomacy with North Korea.

What changed in N Korea during Trump's presidency?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

What a big pile of ragign falsehood and fallacy .. running around crying "not True" but failing to provide support for all these vapid claims and accusations.

lol

what is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

Where is your support that Tulsi is a lover of a tyrant and dictators

This is the second time I had to point out to you that that particular comment wasn't about Tulsi.

... false nonsense on steroids .. then you claim no one called her a Russian Hero when you just did above

I said no such thing. Quote me.

Then you falsely claim that Genocide Joe ... and self proclaimed Zionist is not supporting the Gaza Holocaust .. ???

I never even mentioned Gaza.

Not sure what planet you live on friend but on earth .. USA is giving military and financial support .. to Israel .. whilst commiting a Holocaust .. in violation of US Law ...

What Israel does is in violation of international law actually. And idd, the USA notoriously have always vetoed any and all resolutions against Israel's warcrimes.

Your assertions are preposterously false .. your logic nowhere to be found .. being Anti War .. does not make one a supporter of those we are planning to Attack. Claiming it was a blunder to attack Iraq .. did not mean one was a supporter of Al Qaeda ..

You are all over the place. Even mixing things up. It's almost like you are reading what you want to read instead of what is actually written. Almost.

This kind of thinking is prepostrously false and illogical nonsense .. but we see it all the time among the low information crowd 12 years of school and we manage not to teach the basics of Philosophy 101 -- logic, logical fallacy .. what constitutes a valid argument .. and so do not feel too silly if you were sucked in by state propagandsa doublespeak ..

Try some decent spelling and grammar before trying to claim the intellectual high-ground.

 

[F1fan]

To anyone who believes that, I have a bridge for sale.

Trump voters are already regreting their votes. Biden will be missed very much come February given what Trump is showing us so far. Trump's judgment is very poor. Gabbard is unacceptable. Gaetz is unacceptable. Hogwarts, or whatever his name is, is unacceptable. It's as if Trump is playing a bar game of picking the worst cabinet.

 

[Estro Felino]

His policies regarding Israel failed to bring peace.
Apartheid & violence continued, as Hamas built
up infrastructure to launch its attack.

I guess you do know that the Mediterranean area includes several countries...not only Israel.

 

[Revoltingest]

I guess you do know....

I know many things.