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Gandhi:- Ahimsa, Civil Disobedience and the Alternative West

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
More aware of how it would work out for India than any of those people who were led to slaughter.
That is what I call "grasping at straws".

You really ought to consider whether you want to keep making bold claims that betray your lack of interest in learning anything of significance about the matters they refer to.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
More aware of how it would work out for India than any of those people who were led to slaughter.
And how many people do you think might have died if India had ignored Gandhi's non-violence approach and went for a revolutionary war instead?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I admit to not understanding the politics of partition, and lean to it being far more complicated all around than many self-appointed experts would want us to think. Certainly Gandhi's ideals of ahimsa have influenced me in unseen ways, I'm sure.

Questioning whether we would have been worse off or better off is conjecture. Lots of other factors come into consideration.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That is what I call "grasping at straws".

You really ought to consider whether you want to keep making bold claims that betray your lack of interest in learning anything of significance about the matters they refer to.

I read a little about it. Ghandi came from a rich family that hated the British. So he grew up hating the British and used his natural gift of weakness against them, it was his only defense, or offense. But why was he successful? Because it gave the New World Order, aka Vatican and it's choir something to sing on the public stage, which made the British look bad, who eventually got sick of the guilt trip songs and threw in the towel. Opening the door for exploitation of India by others. And Monsato ruining their lands with GM crops and chemical fertilizers.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist

Kirran

Premium Member
I read a little about it. Ghandi came from a rich family that hated the British. So he grew up hating the British and used his natural gift of weakness against them, it was his only defense, or offense. But why was he successful? Because it gave the New World Order, aka Vatican and it's choir something to sing on the public stage, which made the British look bad, who eventually got sick of the guilt trip songs and threw in the towel. Opening the door for exploitation of India by others. And Monsato ruining their lands with GM crops and chemical fertilizers.

So just to be clear on how you understand things to work - the Vatican essentially runs the world, including running most world governments behind the scenes (are different political parties essentially a charade?) and being at the head of several corporations, which ostensibly are about making a profit but are in fact to do with ruining people's lives purposefully?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ya, it's sorta "funny" how "New World Order" used to be placed on the heads of us Jews but now it's supposedly the Catholics that have taken over. Anyone see when that revolution took place?
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Ya, it's sorta "funny" how "New World Order" used to be placed on the heads of us Jews but now it's supposedly the Catholics that have taken over. Anyone see when that revolution took place?

Either way, you and your partner have it covered between you.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So just to be clear on how you understand things to work - the Vatican essentially runs the world, including running most world governments behind the scenes (are different political parties essentially a charade?) and being at the head of several corporations, which ostensibly are about making a profit but are in fact to do with ruining people's lives purposefully?

Sort of, think of the Roman Empire except secret, or Mystery Babylon. The two faces of the Pope would be Ceasar in this scenario, the white one that you see and the black one you don't see. giving the thumbs up or the thumbs down. And the King has his court, the Freemasons who you don't see, and the public figures that you do see. The purpose I guess is the same as the Lord told the Isrealites would happen with a man as a king, to take the best of everything for themselves.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Sort of, think of the Roman Empire except secret, or Mystery Babylon. The two faces of the Pope would be Ceasar in this scenario, the white one that you see and the black one you don't see. giving the thumbs up or the thumbs down. And the King has his court, the Freemasons who you don't see, and the public figures that you do see. The purpose I guess is the same as the Lord told the Isrealites would happen with a man as a king, to take the best of everything for themselves.

OK so are the Freemasons an arm of the Vatican-centred NWO then?
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Ya, it's sorta "funny" how "New World Order" used to be placed on the heads of us Jews but now it's supposedly the Catholics that have taken over. Anyone see when that revolution took place?

If you read the bible, Ceasar's court had Jews. Even some of the Jews cried out "No King but Ceasar", So the Vatican and some of the Jews could be working together.

John 19:15 But they shouted, "Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!" "Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked. "We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
If you read the bible, Ceasar's court had Jews. Even some of the Jews cried out "No King but Ceasar", So the Vatican and some of the Jews could be working together.

John 19:15 But they shouted, "Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!" "Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked. "We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered.
How do I even respond to this? Nah, I guess it's better I not feed this anymore.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Wow, just wow. And not even making the basic effort to spell the names used correctly. Whow, just whow. I am definitely out of this one. lol Will watch for the laughs I suppose.
 
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