mr.guy
crapsack
In some ways, neither is the NRA.
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Gay adoption is good for children
- Thread starter Autodidact
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Done here.
Our ancestors couldn't, either. That's why they burned heretics. It would be good if more of us could learn that government is not the place for religious decrees.
rojse
RF Addict
Surely a homosexual couple raising a child is better for the child, emotionally, than the state raising that same child?
I agree 100%:yes:
Scott C.
Just one guy
Ok, I'm back. This subject is so incredibly emotional and I feel very strong about my position. I also feel that I can make strong logical and sensible arguments to defend my position. However, I do not enjoy engaging in nasty, ugly, or offensive debates with others. It's not my personality, nor the reason I participate in RF. I probably should not have ventured into this topic, realizing that's the turn it would likely take. Now, if anyone wants to know my opinions and wants me to give a lengthly, well thought out, and logical position on my stand, and if they will read it and respond with respectful counter arguments or questions for clarification, I will be happy to post my views. On the other hand, if this thread is intended only for those who believe in gay adoption, I will refrain from further comments.
This is so understandable. The reason why everyone is emotionally charged with this issue is because there are children involved. Children we all love, nurture, and wish to protect.
There are times when I feel extremely fortunate to have met a man that I fell in love with and married. As a bisexual, if I were to choose to spend the rest of my life with another woman (which was possible when I was single), I would be experiencing something radically different day-to-day. And as a mother, however, my feelings about my children would be exactly the same.......I want to nurture, love, and protect (I see myself as a "grizzly-bear mama") to the best of my ability.
You're absolutely correct, however, that as emotionally charged as a debate like this can be, it ideally should not turn into a flame war. My heart bleeds for the Autodidacts and the MidnightBlue's of the U.S. when opinions are thrown out there about gay marriage and gay adoption because I could have just as easily been in their camp. And I can completely respect your opinion about what you wish to give your children because my husband and I, like you, are adamant about how we are trying to raise our children with outstanding ethics.
Just FYI, this thread I think is a great opportunity to learn from both sides of the issue. It is, however, very easy to walk out of here with hurt feelings. One very easily could feel demonized as called "unnatural" or "a bigot."
Again, there is a very real human being on the other side of the argument, y'all. So now that I'm done slurping kisses on every one here, you may return to regular programming. Happy argumenting! LOL
Peace,
Mystic
Scott C.
Just one guy
Again, there is a very real human being on the other side of the argument, y'all. So now that I'm done slurping kisses on every one here, you may return to regular programming. Happy argumenting! LOL
Very nice. I would hug you, if I could.
Would you answer a question first. How would you personally react if someone told you that you were unfit to be a parent?
Keep that in mind as you make your case. If you feel strongly about this, then by all means make your argument, but make it a good one. I am sure that if someone were discussing your rights to be a parent, you would demand that they have good clear reasons for doing so.
Scott C.
Just one guy
fantôme profane;1073790 said:
I would be very offended if someone told me I was unfit to be a parent. I can understand why gays are offended if I say that about them. All I can say is that they may be loving and kind people and they may do their best to provide shelter and care and love for an adopted child, and I salute that, and they may have better discipline techniques than I have, and they may not be as quick to temper as I am, but nevertheless, I believe God ordained the institution of marriage and expects us as a society to stick to it in His way, and the gays should find other ways to share their kindness and love with others, but not through adoption, and then I hope they don't all hate me and think that I hate them and want to make their lives miserable, because I don't hate them or want that. I know these are are unwelcome words and may make me sound bad to some people, but that is the way I feel.
McBell
Unbound
So in a sense you are saying that God would rather these children remain in the system than be adopted by same sex couples?
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
I think love is the most important part of any child's upbringing. I could care less what their sexual orientation is as parents, it's the love they give the child. And the child they bring up would be one less homophobic person in the world.
So is that meaning to say that people who oppose gay adoption are homophobes?
If God ordained the institution of marriage why did he get a young unmarried girl pregnant? Mary is likely to have been very young, barely in her teens. Any older man in the West getting such a young girl pregnant would be regarded as a paedophile!
McBell
Unbound
Depends upon the reason why they are apposed to gay adoptions.
Scott C.
Just one guy
Hypothetically, if I had only two alternatives, 1) a kind and decent gay couple who would love and care for the child or 2) a mother and father who would not be kind and loving and who would be emotionally absent, I would chose the gay couple. But, if we add 3) a kind and decent father and mother who would love and care for the child, I would chose (3) over (2). We should do everything humanly possible to find type (3) families for children in the system. I'm not convinced that this is not possible.
Scott C.
Just one guy
I think Mary and the Son of God was a special exception.
Scott C.
Just one guy
I don't think there are any exceptions!
I'm not sure what you are saying.
God shouldn't have got Mary pregnant, however he managed it! Not that I actually believe that God had anything to do with her pregnancy. The girl got herself in the family way in the time honoured way, imo!
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Go for it. A well thought out, logical argument in favor of prohibiting good gay and lesbian adults from adopting children would be a refreshing change of pace. Might I suggest some facts as a way to bolster your argument?