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Gender reassignment/affirming surgery

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
You seem to be getting the hang of the spectrum that is life. Good job..
So does this way of thinking work in other areas of people's lives, where they can believe think and feel things into existence and demand people treat them based on their beliefs thoughts and feelings? You must be a billionaire by now.
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
The placebo effect is widely documented in many avenues and literatures.
So you're saying that if a diabetic believes, thinks and feels the are no longer a diabetic then their pancreas starts producing insulin again? And that belief thoughts feelings kill cancer cells.
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
Sure. If that's what you want to take away from this conversation. Absolutely

Yes. It's called confidence.
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It's what you said. Beliefs, thought and feelings actually make things true.

No thats not the same thing. You claimed beliefs thoughts and feelings can actually make a man a woman. So it's not confidence it's an altering or reality.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
It's what you said. Beliefs, thought and feelings actually make things true.
In some respects this is correct and in others it's not. You don't seem to grasp spectrums. There is no yes or no.

And I'm not denying there are men and women. Just that there is also a blend of everything (between male and female) in between.

Look, I'm not going to continue to debate someone's existence. So if that's the case, you want to keep denying trans personhood. Please don't respond to me. Thanks friend.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
In some respects this is correct and in others it's not. You don't seem to grasp spectrums. There is no yes or no.

And I'm not denying there are men and women. Just that there is also a blend of everything (between male and female) in between.

Look, I'm not going to continue to debate someone's existence. So if that's the case, you want to keep denying trans personhood. Please don't respond to me. Thanks friend.
Biology is hard:sweat::sleepy::coldsweat:
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
In some respects this is correct and in others it's not. You don't seem to grasp spectrums. There is no yes or no.

And I'm not denying there are men and women. Just that there is also a blend of everything (between male and female) in between.

Look, I'm not going to continue to debate someone's existence. So if that's the case, you want to keep denying trans personhood. Please don't respond to me. Thanks friend.
Ah yes the reversion to emotional arguments. Its the sign you have nothing rationale left to add. I am not denying anyone's "personhood". What I am denying is the delusion that thinks are true simply because someone believes, thinks or feels it's true. A man doesn't actually turn into a woman simple because he believes, thinks or feels he is woman. The only "evidence" you have for such a claim is "life is a spectrum". That's just a declaration not evidence.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ah yes the reversion to emotional arguments. Its the sign you have nothing rationale left to add. I am not denying anyone's "personhood". What I am denying is the delusion that thinks are true simply because someone believes, thinks or feels it's true. A man doesn't actually turn into a woman simple because he believes, thinks or feels he is woman. The only "evidence" you have for such a claim is "life is a spectrum". That's just a declaration not evidence.
No, if you ignore the science you do not get to complain when people put you in your place.
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
No, if you ignore the science you do not get to complain when people put you in your place.
What "science"? So it's your scientific opinion that a man who believes thinks and feels that he is a woman actually turns into a woman because he believes, thinks and feels he is woman .
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What "science"? So it's your scientific opinion that a man who believes thinks and feels that he is a woman actually turns into a woman because he believes, thinks and feels he is woman .
If you want an answer you need to change your attitude. The fact is that they science says that you are wrong. If you are willing to learn I have no problem in showing you the science, but if you are just going to act like a jerk then any of my attempts to help you to learn would be futile.
 
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