General Debate: The Solution to All The World's Problems

[dybmh]

Its easy to say that, but family who cares for this cruel person will object.

Yes. They have visitation rights. Potentially unlimited and unfettered access.

Some will claim that even the cruelest can be retaught...

That's steps 2-4. It would to be determined that the individual cannot listen, cannot communicate ( step 2 ) AND cannot be educated ( step 3 ) and cannot be moderated ( step 4 ). It's a cascading chain. There cannot be a reunion without all 3 steps ( 2, 3, 4 ) completed. If step 2 is a fail, we stop. They remain isolated. If step 2 is successful, but 3 is not, we stop, they remain isolated. If step 2 and 3 are successful, but 4 is not, we stop, and they remain isolated.

That's what I'm thinking. Ultimately everyone can be cruel. Childbirth, is cruel.

What I'm picturing, quite honestly, is an AI dream world. A containment system, for isolation, which is humane to the nth degree. The person can go, and live in the "matrix". They can do whatever they want, to whom ever they want, without causing a single drop of harm. They will get absolute freedom. But, they will also be isolated.

This dream world would be available for others too. People want this. They want to be together with their loved ones forever. They cannot cope with grief and trauma and loss... etc. They want to cocoon, they want oblivion. They can have it. They can become zombies in the matrix. It's fine. I'll miss them. But, people have a right choose oblivion. Eventually they'll die out, because they will not be procreating. And humanity will evolve.

 

[Heyo]

I hate to say it, but ,it depends on the bully.

My gut response is:

1. Isolate

I don't think that is necessary, at least not in the way as putting them in a cell.
Allow them to interact freely and normally with any group of peers, but prevent them from being together with people who are defenceless.
Bullies often depend on the "bystander effect". In a society where people love their freedom, a bully would face opposition.

1. communicate
2. educate
3. moderate
4. reunion

in that order.

There needs to be therapy somewhere in there for special cases. Some people, especially young people, have difficulties to manage their emotions.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm still peeved by the word "enforced" and would like it to be replaced by something more appropriate, "defended" seems apt.
Other than that little detail, I'm on board.

His post seems just a sarcastic rant,
not to be taken seriously.

 

[dybmh]

His post seems just a sarcastic rant,

Dr. Mr Revotiingest,

Yea of little faith. I understood the good sir, @Heyo's, recommendation. Then I included it in the plan. My friend from Germany appreciated it. Please see below. POST #71 - LINK

not to be taken seriously.

This is how business gets done, when we're having fun while doing it. I always work this way. It's why people love to work with me and for me. It's one of the secrets to my success. I make it fun. I support my team. I pay well. I appreciate them. Life's too short not to enjoy our work. Those of us with full-time jobs ( or multiple full-time jobs ), spend more time with our co-workers, by far, than we spend with our own families. These sort of team building exercises are vital for group cohesion.

If there ever is a real crisis, / conflict especially an intra-team conflict, these sort of experiences, working together, towards an important goal and having fun while doing it, are laying a foundation for the future which I don't think you can appreciate. Because you, sir, do not work in or with a team. You don't build teams. You don't appreciate team-work. You don't operate well in team environments, correct? Your natural inclination is to work alone?

If so, that explains why you are not understanding what is happening. This, friend, is:

Team-work which is not developed around blaming a common-enemy.​

Team work makes the dream work, boss. What it's done well? It's poetry in motion.

You've been playing the blame game. That's counter-productive. We, not you, are trying to solve the world's problems. Blaming might feel good in the short term, but it's feeding the problem long term.

That ^^ should be taken seriously, boss? Right?

 

[dybmh]

I don't think that is necessary,

In my house, isolation is very simple. My spouse and I take break from the argument so that both of us can cool off. I'm not saying that isolation needs to be prison unless... it does.

There needs to be therapy

Steps 2,3,4 are the stages where the therapy occurs. Please note: I was asked for a plan on the spot. I did the best I could do under the circumstances, and, to be honest, I think it's a decent 5 step plan for conflict resolution in spite of being, well, only 5 words long.

 

[osgart]

The solution is charity towards all humans as they deserve, with mercy towards the repentant, and honor to the deserving. It's a heart thing.

 

[dybmh]

Team Meeting! Listen Up!

@JIMMY12345 raised a valid point. Love. Period. Love needs to be included in the plan. I wasn't sure how to include without introducing chaos into the plan. Love is a fickle beast. However, thanks to @Revoltingest's negative role-modeling, ( Thank you sir. Your're a diamond in the rough. ), I now know how to include "Love" in the plan. Step #4 has been updated

Jimmy, What do you think of the blame-game? Is blaming others for my own failures productive? Even if others are making valid mistakes, does blaming, on its own, ever accomplish anything? Isn't the "blame-game" counter-productive? Who likes this? Blaming? Isn't that the sludge that we see coming from political operatives and the last days of campaign advertisements prior to an election. Blaming needs to go bye-bye. Agreed?

Does anyone object to this? No more blaming people? Lets's isolate our work to actions? Causes and effects? Circumstances? Problems are the result of their circumstances? What is more loving than that? I ask you?

"I don't hate you, I hate what you are doing. I love you, but what you're doing is wrong. Let's figure this out."
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Friends, Comrades.

How to solve the world's problems?

Objective: Freedom needs to be defended not forced AND bullying cannot not be ignored.

1. Be encouraged! We can do this!​
2. Cultivate patience and stamina.​
3. Work hard, play hard, rest, recover, repeat. ​
4. Stop Making the same mistakes without blaming people​
5. Never quit, but don't neglect step #2​
6. Celebrate any and all successes both large and small​

Who can argue with that?

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No more "Blame-Game"? Is everyone in agreement? Are there any objections?

 

[Revoltingest]

Dr. Mr Revotiingest,

Yea of little faith.

Of no faith.

 

[dybmh]

OK. Team? You have been amazing. It's been a distinctive pleasure working with each of you. Isn;t it amazing what can be accomplished when we work together. Even the negative role-models contributed a great deal. If there are no further objections. I think I have it.

The last step. Step #7. Lisa? @Lisa Sims ? You did it, dear. You. You did it. You finished the list. I have no idea who you are. But I could virtually hug you right now. Wow. I am so happy, so very happy.

The last piece of the puzzle. I really think this is it. Lisa. We need to step out of our comfort zones, don't we? I feel like crying right now. That's it. People are so stuck in their routines, we need to think outside the box. It's healthy. It's necessary. This.. overly comfort motivated life-style is devolving us as humans. We're becoming weak, amorphous, oblivious slobs, physically, emotionally, and spiritually. All we want to do is go back to the womb. IN order to solve the world's problems we, humans, need to embrace our own humanity, our natural talents. We are able to depart from our comfort zone and assimilate new ideas, rapidly. OUr brains have evolved to do this. Let's not trade comfort for never ending conflict, right?

It's easy to say: "Stop Making the Same mistakes". But HOW? How does a person do that? That is step #7. Thank you LIsa, for showing up to teach me this valuable lesson. Thank you, from the very bottom of my heart. You're right. You're 100% right.

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Friends, Comrades.

How to solve the world's problems?

Objective: Freedom needs to be defended not forced AND bullying cannot not be ignored.

1. Be encouraged! We can do this!​
2. Cultivate patience and stamina.​
3. Work hard, play hard, rest, recover, repeat. ​
4. Stop Making the same mistakes without blaming people​
5. Never quit, but don't neglect step #2​
6. Celebrate any and all successes both large and small​
7. Don't be afraid to depart from your comfort zone. This is important, and, it's good for you.​

Who can argue with that?

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[dybmh]

Of no faith.

Yes. It's obvious.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's obvious.

You have a keen sense of it.

 

[dybmh]

OK Team. I'm out for the next 30ish hours. Time to have some rest, and recovery time. Blessings from me to you. I love you all, even you, @Revoltingest, in spite of your behavior and your moniker.

I'll be available to continue fine tuning on Sunday. Also if needed we can develop an issues list and get started on putting this plan in motion.

 

[dybmh]

You have a keen sense of it.

You're easy to read. You've adopted the persona of a two dimensional cartoon character. Bye Rev.

 

[dybmh]

The link will take you to the complete message. Thank you.

Excellent. Many blessings to you and yours. Sincerely.

 

[Heyo]

Steps 2,3,4 are the stages where the therapy occurs. Please note: I was asked for a plan on the spot. I did the best I could do under the circumstances, and, to be honest, I think it's a decent 5 step plan for conflict resolution in spite of being, well, only 5 words long.

Unlike @Revoltingest, I'm happy to work with you. I understand that we are making ad hoc plans and I don't criticize, I try to contribute. We had our differences in the past, but that doesn't prevent me from working with you in the present. I have strong opinions on topics, not on people.

And even if this is intended to be sarcastic, which I don't think, I get to post my ideas and possibly make someone think.

 

[Revoltingest]

Unlike @Revoltingest, I'm happy to work with you.

Good.
I dislike hostile & prejudiced people.