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Genetic 'Adam & Eve' Chromosome Study Traces All Men To Man Who Lived 135,000 Years Ago

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
As to the 80 foot whale standing on its tail through many layers...I won't say I believe it.
My understanding is that the fact was that the whale wasn't standing on its tail through many layers at all. But it was just in an angle in its own strata.

The "whale" claim was made in the 70's and debunked in the 80's. I didn't know this ridiculous claim was still around. You need to update your sources. Are you reading a Gish book perhaps?

All the trees they have found like that in the picture do not have roots. There are many like this around the world.
Geologists fail to accept that the only reasonable explanation of polystrate fossils is that the layers formed quickly around plant and animal life before they had time to decay. Seems to correspond with the biblical account of the worldwide Flood, doesn’t it?
No. It doesn't.

Geology came about as a science after people were trying to prove the flood story to be true, and they realized that the evidence did no support it. This was hundreds of years ago. It's time to put that story to bed and move on with reality. The flood didn't happen, and it's not the explanation to the strata or the fossils.
 
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Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Since the earth is less than 6,000 years old, where did this first man live 135,000 years ago?
How do we know Earth is older than 6,000 years?

Well, one out of following reasons:
Dendrochronology
Human Y-chromosomal ancestry
Oxidizable carbon ratio dating
Rock varnish
Thermoluminescence dating
Coral
Fission track dating
Ice layering
Lack of DNA in fossils
Permafrost
Weathering rinds
Amino acid racemization
Baptistina asteroid family
Continental drift
Cosmogenic nuclide dating
Erosion
Geomagnetic reversals
Impact craters
Iron-manganese nodules
Length of the prehistoric day
Naica megacrystals
Nitrogen in diamonds
Petrified wood
Relativistic jets
Sedimentary varves
Stalactites
Space weathering
Distant starlight
Helioseismology
Lunar retreat
Radioactive decay


My favorite is the geomagnetic reversal. The second best is distant starlight, especially SN1987A, since it involved simple trigonometry (in particular the cos-form). SN1987A happened around 150,000 years ago. There's no question about it, unless God created a world to lie to us, which is worse.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
The universities you claim are credible also teach evolution, which would mean there has to be millions of bones from every stage of evolution, but they have never found any bones from even one stage?
Every fossil represents an individual, which is essentially a transitional form. Everyone of us is a transitional form between our parents and our children.

There are currently more than 500,000 fossils registered. Every single one is considered a stage.

Modern education seems to more theory than fact.
Scientific theory (not common language "theory", but scientific theory) is a model of facts, reasoning, logic, math, and much more. The theory of evolution is compiled of literally thousands of facts. It's not a fact. It's a model to explain a collection of facts. The fact is that evolution is true. The theory of evolution is the attempt to explain why evolution is happening and how.

Science has proven there was a world flood, and yes, science dates it to around 4,000 years ago.
Eh. No. Sorry. Take a geology class, and you'll pull your hair out trying to find that "science". It's not there.

if the earth is 4 billion years old, we should have found a jillion bones of humans...where are all these bone. I'll tell you where they are...they are in the
imagination of those with theories they can't prove.
No. We wouldn't. Just because an animal die doesn't mean that we automatically get a fossil. Weather, crushed by rocks, eaten by animals, so many reasons to why they're not fossilized. It's a wonder that we have as many as we do.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Domenic, in reference to your talking about polystrate fossils again, did you read the explanation I posted?
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
"Whales "cetaceans" are mammals like us. Despite that "fishy" lifestyle, their physiology clearly reveals their mammalian features. How did this occur? How did whales evolve? What did they evolve from? The evidence of whale evolution is clear. The list of new fossil species exhibiting transitional features continues to grow. If you are ever asked for an example of "transitional fossils", this list is a great place to start."

Indohyus
Pakicetus
Rodhocetus
Nalacetus
Ichthyolestes
Gandakasia
Ambulocetus
Himalayacetus
Attockicetus
Remingtonocetus
Dalanistes
Kutchicetus
Andrewsiphius
Indocetus
Qaisracetus
Takracetus
Artiocetus
Babiacetus
Protocetus
Pappocetus
Eocetus
Georgiacetus
Natchitochia
Dorudon
Ancalacetus
Zygorhiza
Saghacetus
Chrysocetus
Gaviacetus
Pontogeneus
Basilosaurus
Basiloterus
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
How Old is the Earth?





"Have you ever wondered how old the Earth is? Universe Today publisher Fraser Cain explains how early scientists tried to get an answer for this puzzling problem, and how modern science has finally given us an answer - by looking at meteorites.

Based on this article:
http://www.universetoday.com/75805/ho...

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Did you ever wonder how old the Earth is?

Scientists estimate the Earth is four-point-five-four billion years old, the exact same age as the rest of the Solar System.

It's no coincidence, since it all formed from the solar nebula, billions of years ago.

In the early Solar System, small particles of dust collected into larger and larger objects until there were many planetoids.

These planetoids collided into one another, forming the Earth.

So, how do we confirm the Earth is four-point-five-four billion years old?

It's surprisingly hard to tell.

We believe the oldest rocks on Earth are four to four-point-two billion years old and plate tectonics are constantly resurfacing the planet, hiding the evidence.

In the past, scientists have come up with an assortment of creative ways to determine the age of the Earth:

Benoit de Maillet was a French anthropologist in the seventeenth century who noticed fossils high up in the mountains.

He guessed that those areas were once covered by oceans, and so calculated that it would take two billion years for the oceans to evaporate to their current levels.

William Thompson, also known as Lord Kelvin, assumed that the Earth was once a ball of molten rock the same temperature of the Sun.

He calculated that it would take between twenty and four-hundred million years for the Earth to cool to its current temperature.

Charles Darwin calculated that a chalk formation in England would have taken 300 million years to weather to its current state, setting a minimum age for the Earth.

Darwin's son, George assumed that the Moon formed out of the Earth and drifted to its current location, taking at least fifty-six million years to reach its current distance.

Astronomer Edmund Halley assumed that the salinity of the oceans explained the age. Based on the amount of salt flowing into the ocean from rivers, he estimated that it would take eighty to one hundred and fifty million years for the oceans to reach their current level of salinity.

Each of these ideas was totally wrong. I admire their creativity, and their ability to produce and attempt to test theories with only a fraction of knowledge and equipment available today.

Modern science eventually provided us a method for determining the age of the earth... by using meteorites.

Scientists can tell the age of the space rocks by measuring the ratios of trace radioactive isotopes.

No matter the origin of the meteorites, they're all the same age: four-point-five-four billion years old.

And we know that everything in our solar system was formed at the same time from the primordial solar nebula. The age of the Earth, just like the meteorites and everything else in our solar system is four-point-five-four billion years old.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Morphed: When Whales had Legs

Examine the environmental pressures that turned a wolflike creature that hunted in shallow waters into a leviathan of the seas. We witness the ancient turning points in the whales evolutionary journey, and how the ice age became its unlikely savior.

 

Midnight Rain

Well-Known Member
Polystrate fossils are found extending through multiple layers of sediment. Many trees have been found fossilized in a vertical position through layers of coal, sandstone, and other sediments. Certainly, the trees would have decayed if millions of years had occurred between the different strata.


Polystrate fossils such as this one are found all over the world. They run through many rock layers proving the rock layers are not different ages as the textbooks teach.


As to the 80 foot whale standing on its tail through many layers...I won't say I believe it. All the trees they have found like that in the picture do not have roots. There are many like this around the world.
Geologists fail to accept that the only reasonable explanation of polystrate fossils is that the layers formed quickly around plant and animal life before they had time to decay. Seems to correspond with the biblical account of the worldwide Flood, doesn’t it?
Just gonna leave this link for you to read up on.
"Polystrate" Tree Fossils
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
Geologists fail to accept that the only reasonable explanation of polystrate fossils is that the layers formed quickly around plant and animal life before they had time to decay.
That is indeed a reasonable interpretation, given that uniformitarianism doesn't say that such things can't happen. It only says that such things are the exception and not the rule.
Seems to correspond with the biblical account of the worldwide Flood, doesn’t it?
No, it would correspond to a localized, rapid deposition of layers. How you get a worldwide flood out of that, I don't know.
 

David M

Well-Known Member
because we as humans wouldn't have just started from one particular source, we would have popped up in all areas of the planet, not just one geographical area of the planet, hence we all have different, looks and skin colour and all the rest.

And yet the evidence says otherwise. Modern humans evolved in one area of the world and spread out from there. The most probable way that this occurred was that there were waves of such migrations but they were ultimately unsuccessful other than the last one that happened somewhere around 60,000 years ago.

The variation that you mention happened after that migration started, for example every indication points to the appearance of blue eyes as taking place about 10,000 years ago.
 
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