Genuine question for Creationists

[FunctionalAtheist]

order indicates that thought has gone into it. Order doesnt come about randomly. If i throw 100 red marbles and 100 blue marbles high into the air, they are not going to fall into two neat piles of red and blue marlbes...they are going to be scattered all over the place.

Yes, if you ignore any thing nature has taught us, then you will not be able to understand what nature has taught us! Not sure you realize this, Pegg, but there is no known natural connection between gravity and color. On the other hand, if you throw 100 steel marbles, 100 glass marbles, and 100 sytromfome balls up in the air, they are going to sort out very nicely. Depending on how high you throw them and the wind condtions, all sorts of randomly generated yet orderly patterns can be seen. E.g. the steel marbles would land closer to the center of the spread, with the glass marbles on average being further away and spread further, while the styrofoam marbles may all drift away depending on the wind. Your example is daft!

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

and yet a blade of grass is far more complex then a fire truck.

How could the truck require a designer and creator, but not the grass?

Key to a successful design is simplicity! Next?

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

is grass really natural?

There was a time on the earth when there was no life, no grass, no trees...nothing but water.

So where is the 'naturalness' in grass if it hasnt always been here?

Is there grass on mars? Where are all the trees on Venus?

How do we even know if the definition of 'natural' is actually correct? The universe is a very harsh and uninhabitable place... we are just a tiny spot within that universe and yet here is all these living biological creatures and other living things which have not yet been found anywhere else.... what makes you think its natural?

LOL, are your comments actually meant to influence opinions?

 

[outhouse]

LOL, are your comments actually meant to influence opinions?

some people lack the intellect to see reality without magic.

 

[outhouse]

and yet a blade of grass is far more complex then a fire truck.

How could the truck require a designer and creator, but not the grass?

because a fire truck FACTUALLY did not evolve over millions of years :slap:

 

[Shad]

There is no evidence of another universe, so the evidence we do see is what we rightly draw conclusions from. A person sees a house, or the ruins of an ancient temple, and rightly concludes an intelligent designer is responsible. The Bible states this simple truth; " Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God." (Hebrew 3:4)
Somehow, that simple yet irrefutable logic gets lost on those who do not want there to be an intelligent Designer, IMO.

We compare known unnatural objects to natural objects in order to conclude one is designed and one is not. By suggesting nature is designed we can no longer properly conclude if an object is unnatural or natural. One can say a ruin is a natural object as nature is designed. This is circular logic. Logic left the door the second you started typing.

Others beat me to the argument it seems.

 

[�� Saint Atheist ��]

It seems that Evolution vs Creationism all comes down to this:
What is vs. What I want
That's not intellectually honest.

 

[outhouse]

It seems that Evolution vs Creationism all comes down to this:
What is vs. What I want
That's not intellectually honest.

when has fanaticism ever been honest?