Why is it that you call yourself a 'Judeo/Christian'? What is it that this means in real and practical terms?
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- Thread starter Epic Beard Man
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Judeo/Christian because our foundation is on the Judeo scriptures and Christian because we follow Jesus Christ as the fulfillment of the prophetic promises in the Judeo scriptures.
So in other words just a Christian?
Don't follow your point of questioning... could you amplify?
What you describe is standard Christian fare. Not sure why you would need to add 'Judeo' to it.
LOL... my first post said "Christian".
Then you asked why Judeo/Christian (which I didn't say but you are quite right)
Then I explained why people use Judeo/Christian.
So where do you want to go from here?
Because your use of 'Judeo/Christian' doesn't differ in meaning at all from 'Christian'. So why not just use Christian? I'd expect some doctrinal or theological differences at least to warrant a separate label.LOL... my first post said "Christian".
Then you asked why Judeo/Christian (which I didn't say but you are quite right)
Then I explained why people use Judeo/Christian.
So where do you want to go from here?
Ohhh... you mean in my profile!
It better defines where Christian beliefs comes from. It forms a separate label.
People know where Christian beliefs come from though. I still can't understand. Oh well.
Rational Agnostic
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1) Agnostic, but I do like the golden rule as described by Jesus.
2) I think that admitting one does not know the answers to deep, metaphysical questions about the nature of reality enriches one's life by allowing for more open-mindedness and ability to think critically about all ideas.'
3) I think others would benefit from admitting their lack of certainty about deep, metaphysical issues as well. It is arrogant to believe, as a mere mortal bipedal primate, that you *KNOW* with certainty, how the universe began or that a god created it.
I 'sense' that your friends probably value your company.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I see where @Rival is talking about. Historically most Christians know Christianity at least in principle is a derivative of Judaism but I too, am curious if you subscribe to a particular sect in Christianity (obviously you're not Jewish).
Hindu, Vaishnava specifically. Vaishnavas are followers and devotees of Vishnu in any or all of his forms (avatars). My first favorite form is Krishna but there are others I pray to: Narasimha, Rama, Dhanvantari as well as their "wives" (feminine counterparts): Lakshmi, Radha, Sita. For me, Vishnu is the form of God that is Supreme. However, I do not snub the deities of other sampradayas (sects): Shiva in his many forms, Parvati/Durga/Kali, Kartikeya (aka Murugan aka Subramaniya), Swami Ayyappa, Hanuman, and many others. My view of God does not invalidate another Hindu's view.
Hinduism is described as monotheistic, polytheistic and everything in between. For the most part there is only one God who takes myriad forms based on the needs and views of the believer.
Secular principles: do no harm (ahimsa) inasmuch as it's possible; charity and compassion (nar seva narayan seva: "service to man is service to God". I have a particular affinity for animals, and pray to forms of Shiva that are protectors of animals.
I try to keep the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita in mind. At face value it's quite simplistic, but there are other profoundly deep meanings. There are teachings from other scriptures such as the Vedas, Puranas Upanishads (largely found in the Vedas). Some of these teachings deal with the generosity of God; examples of the mistakes of those who tried to cheat their way through life and rise to power and terrorizing others; that loving devotion to God trumps all sins and is a fast track to him (there is a deeper context to that in the BG).
That everyone's view of God is their own and just as correct as the next one; have your own relationship with God and don't be concerned with someone else's; not to force it on others or do harm thinking there is only one right way.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
As I understand the avatars are so based on the needs of the human. I understand. But in your faith what about those who worship Brahman directly? Would Brahman (God) still bless the person who comes to the divine directly?
syo
Well-Known Member
christian
the following prayer ''Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And do not bring us to the time of trial, but rescue us from the evil one.''
the above prayer.
syo
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i say in the beginning three times the following ''Holy God, Holy Strong, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us'' and in the end i say this ''Through the prayers of our Holy Fathers, Lord Jesus Christ our God have mercy on us and save us!''
Vishnu takes birth, or otherwise appears on Earth at a time when dharma (righteousness) is waning or becomes absent. He does this as the Preserver, to set wrongs aright. Unfortunately, the world and humans being what they are, it usually doesn't last. This is why he manifests age to age (his words almost exactly). As far as I can see, most of his appearances were for a specific reason or person, yes. But there is a trickle down and ripple effect to all of humanity.
I'm not sure if there are very many who worship Brahman directly. There are no temples, services or priests dedicated to Brahman. Brahman is the ineffable "ground of existence". So I really can't answer that. Otoh, almost all Hindus see their personal view of God as Brahman that is manifest. In the Bhagavad Gita Krishna and Arjuna repeatedly refer to Krishna as Brahman. So, in a way when I worship Krishna I am worshiping Brahman. And it is Krishna, in Vaishnava belief, who will grant moksha (liberation from rebirth). In fact, Krishna says that it's perfectly OK to worship any God/dess or deity you want - he'll make your faith in that deity steady - as long as you realize that all deities are actually him (Krishna/Brahman) in another form. So yeah, I can worship Thor as long as I understand Thor is also Krishna/Brahman. It's really kind of trippy.
All of that is from a Vaishnava perspective, and not even all Vaishnavas... just one in particular.
Shaivas, Shaktas, Sauras, et. al. will have something different to say.
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
I'm a Buddhist with a strong emphasis on traditional practice. I think Buddhism helps me by giving me a time-tested method for grounding my emotions and doing good actions. I am a better person for being a Buddhist, and getting better all the time. I cultivate compassion for everything actively and am doing what I've always wanted to do- practicing a way by which I am engaged in the work of alleviating suffering.
Buddhism gives me hope and purpose. I can attain better lives and be better than I currently am. I also know that having Buddha-nature in me, means nothing is ordinary or valueless.
I think what others could learn from Buddhism is not to blame. What I mean by this more specifically is that Buddhism teaches none of us are perfect. We all have within us the seeds for good and bad, and the defilements- like anger. We are all 'capable' of doing bad. No one group of people can be responsible for evil in the world, and the scapegoating needs to stop. As humans we're all subject to the same weaknesses, and blaming one another doesn't help the problem.
Buddhism gives me hope and purpose. I can attain better lives and be better than I currently am. I also know that having Buddha-nature in me, means nothing is ordinary or valueless.
I think what others could learn from Buddhism is not to blame. What I mean by this more specifically is that Buddhism teaches none of us are perfect. We all have within us the seeds for good and bad, and the defilements- like anger. We are all 'capable' of doing bad. No one group of people can be responsible for evil in the world, and the scapegoating needs to stop. As humans we're all subject to the same weaknesses, and blaming one another doesn't help the problem.
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MonkeyFire
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All the things I believe in:
- God is LOVE.
- Lucifer is a virtuous fallen angel. His nature is Omniscience, hence the angel of light. This goes in with the forbidden fruit. He will return to the throne one day to vanquish Satan.
- Faith creates hope, and protects the wish to be. He act as a sort of ground hog that tells Existence its fate.
- The subjective nature manifest as spontaneous thought. My mind says "I, believe." Making me like God. In revelation it says God's name is sealed in your forehead.
- The universe has always existed and always will because I believe, and wish to be. There are only so many things like colors and shapes, and time is infinite making the universe a capacitated continuum, meaning we have been reborn or existed forever.
- Hate is the son of darkness. He has the power to be a true Underlord and tempt Hell. He can give existence to naturally ill people, and incarcerate Murder for his own interest. Hate, and No-Love are the two beast of revelation. That Haye gives his power to No-Love in nature.
- Jesus is Passive, he has the power to happiness, and knowledge, and to send bad, and evil things to naught. Esphians 2:2 according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.