Girls

[MysticSang'ha]

I live in a house with three females. My issue isn't listening to females speak for themselves. It's trying to get a word in edgewise, and not getting summarily outvoted on everything from family outing destinations, appropriate clothing, tv channels, and what colour my next car should be.

If that's how males feel, shouldn't the "mysterious" philosophy of males be the topic? Since apparently males rarely get the chance to talk?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

If that's how males feel, shouldn't the "mysterious" philosophy of males be the topic? Since apparently males rarely get the chance to talk?

Nah...I get plenty of chances to talk. Being listened to is more the rarity.
And to tell the truth, I think it has more to do with the three ladies in my life ganging up on me. If I had two sons, my wife would probably find all her discussions railroaded into sports.

Oh, and there's no great mystery to me. I'm about as deep as a petri dish.

(err...yeah...I realise my daughters might grow up to be sports nuts, or lesbians, or prime ministers of the country. At the moment, despite my attempts to impart a love of Aussie Rules and a warped sense of humour on them, they are stereotypical girls who love painting their nails, mermaids, fairies and harrassing their dad...*sighs*)

 

[Brickjectivity]

Even a petri dish can be deep if you are small in size.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Even a petri dish can be deep if you are small in size.

You're deliberately making my self-deprecation difficult, aren't you?

I'm going with an image, since a picture is worth a thousand words...

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Nah...I get plenty of chances to talk. Being listened to is more the rarity.
And to tell the truth, I think it has more to do with the three ladies in my life ganging up on me. If I had two sons, my wife would probably find all her discussions railroaded into sports.

Having a family that is majority-male, I find it interesting that fart jokes, sports (specifically baseball and football), and giggling about boobies tend to be the topic du jour most days.

Gotta roll with it. Enjoy your tea parties.

Oh, and there's no great mystery to me. I'm about as deep as a petri dish.

I find a lot of guys saying that. I think the linear-thought process rather than the multi-level thought processes gives the illusion that simplicity is the appropriate description. I have observed differently. Linear-thinking merely replaces the ideas and thought into a single-chain step-by-step manner of events, rather than layering them on top of each other. Each argue their own stance for efficiency and superiority.

I contend you do have plenty of depth, sir. You just manage to spread it all out to give the illusion that you're shallow.

(err...yeah...I realise my daughters might grow up to be sports nuts, or lesbians, or prime ministers of the country. At the moment, despite my attempts to impart a love of Aussie Rules and a warped sense of humour on them, they are stereotypical girls who love painting their nails, mermaids, fairies and harrassing their dad...*sighs*)

It still could happen. My boys appreciate the ballet. Stranger things have been known to occur....

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Having a family that is majority-male, I find it interesting that fart jokes, sports (specifically baseball and football), and giggling about boobies tend to be the topic du jour most days.

Gotta roll with it. Enjoy your tea parties.

Ugh...that is WAY too close to home. One of my mates thinks it's hilarious to hold up pictures of Tinkerbell's friends and ask me their names. Of course, I know them all. *sighs*

I find a lot of guys saying that. I think the linear-thought process rather than the multi-level thought processes gives the illusion that simplicity is the appropriate description. I have observed differently. Linear-thinking merely replaces the ideas and thought into a single-chain step-by-step manner of events, rather than layering them on top of each other. Each argue their own stance for efficiency and superiority.

I contend you do have plenty of depth, sir. You just manage to spread it all out to give the illusion that you're shallow.

Sorry, I wasn't listening. I was wondering if your boys had any good fart jokes I hadn't heard. (Hey, I could have said I was staring at your boobs...)

It still could happen. My boys appreciate the ballet. Stranger things have been known to occur....

Meh...I wouldn't trade 'em for the world. I'm doomed, but I guess that's just the price I have to pay, right??
:sad4:

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I suspect females do better in traditionally male roles
than men do in traditionally female roles.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I suspect females do better in traditionally male roles
than men do in traditionally female roles.

*shrugs*

I was a primary school teacher. Good at it too. Does that count as traditionally female?

 

[Brickjectivity]

This is getting complicated, as I feared.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

This is getting complicated, as I feared.

Nah, it's all easy. Let me give you the run down as I see it.

Boys are sometimes good and sometimes bad. Some of them are complete assclowns, whilst others are helpful. Some have a great sense of humour. Some are obsessed with sex. Boys is a term which can be used to describe male children, but is sometimes use more colloquially to describe older males, as in 'Just going out with the boys...'

See? Simple!

Oh, bugger...the OP was about 'Girls!' IN that case...

Girls are sometimes good and sometimes bad. Some of them are complete assclowns, whilst others are helpful. Some have a great sense of humour. Some are obsessed with sex. Girls is a term which can be used to describe female children, but is sometimes use more colloquially to describe older females, as in 'Just going out with the girls...'

Individually there are differences, but mass-stereotyping is waste of time, and uninformative. Treat people as people, and you'll be fine. And so will the people, so much the better.

And any crap I spouted above about not getting in a word amongst my girls, etc, is just me speaking crap. I have a tendency to do this on all topics. Go make a new topic thread, and I'll be there speaking crap before you know it. Promise.

(Hey, it's 2.30 in the morning, whatya want from me? Coherence?)

 

[Brickjectivity]

Girls generally increase the complexity of almost any conversation even programming conversations. In programming there is a term called "Extended Backus Naur Form" which is a horribly complex thing that was invented to describe grammars that would parse programming languages. Long before that a girl invented 'Cobol' the first high-level programming language, and might I add it is so boring that Cobol programmers make over 60$ per hour. Sometimes twice that. Girls were involved, ergo it was complex.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

*shrugs*

I was a primary school teacher. Good at it too. Does that count as traditionally female?

How many were there like you in Australia

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Girls generally increase the complexity of almost any conversation even programming conversations. In programming there is a term called "Extended Backus Naur Form" which is a horribly complex thing that was invented to describe grammars that would parse programming languages. Long before that a girl invented 'Cobol' the first high-level programming language, and might I add it is so boring that Cobol programmers make over 60$ per hour. Sometimes twice that. Girls were involved, ergo it was complex.

l havent found that. Sorry!

I work in IT as well, sorta. ERP Solution Architect, own my own business these days. You can get paid for complex, but you'll get paid more for making complex sound easy, and just work...boy or girl.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

How many were there like you in Australia

I'm unique.

In seriousness, women far outnumber men, hence the 'traditional female role' thing. But I would think the percentage of 'good' male teachers was as high as females. Not sure I follow your reasoning.

 

[Brickjectivity]

l havent found that. Sorry!

I work in IT as well, sorta. ERP Solution Architect, own my own business these days. You can get paid for complex, but you'll get paid more for making complex sound easy, and just work...boy or girl.

Only one girl was notably a part of the Bletchley Park team that cracked Enigma codes during WWII. The joke is on the girls! If they didn't complexify things then there would have been more girls on the Bletchley Park team. Obvious.

 

[apophenia]

Girls generally increase the complexity of almost any conversation even programming conversations. In programming there is a term called "Extended Backus Naur Form" which is a horribly complex thing that was invented to describe grammars that would parse programming languages. Long before that a girl invented 'Cobol' the first high-level programming language, and might I add it is so boring that Cobol programmers make over 60$ per hour. Sometimes twice that. Girls were involved, ergo it was complex.

It was 'Lady Lovelace' (1815-1852) - Ada Byron, A.K.A. 'the enchantress of numbers'- who invented the first 'assembler' language too. She devised a symbolic language to describe the computations of Charles Babbage's mechanical computing engine.

In her notes, Lovelace emphasized the difference between the Analytical Engine and previous calculating machines, particularly its ability to be programmed to solve problems of any complexity.[63] Lovelace realised that the potential of the device extended far beyond mere number crunching. She wrote:

[The Analytical Engine] might act upon other things besides number, were objects found whose mutual fundamental relations could be expressed by those of the abstract science of operations, and which should be also susceptible of adaptations to the action of the operating notation and mechanism of the engine...
Supposing, for instance, that the fundamental relations of pitched sounds in the science of harmony and of musical composition were susceptible of such expression and adaptations, the engine might compose elaborate and scientific pieces of music of any degree of complexity or extent.[64]
​

This analysis was a conceptual leap from previous ideas about the capabilities of computing devices, and foreshadowed the capabilities and implications of the modern computer. This insight is seen as significant by writers such as Betty Toole and Benjamin Woolley, as well as programmer John Graham-Cumming, whose project Plan 28 has the aim of constructing the first complete Analytical Engine.[65][66][67]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

Also -

Ada Lovelace devised a method of using punchcards to calculate Bernoulli numbers, becoming the first computer programmer. In her honor the U.S. Department of Defense named its computer language "Ada" in 1980.

Ada Lovelace - Known as the Enchantress of Numbers Ada Lovelace

And then there was Grace Murray Hopper. She invented the first compiler.

And

During the early 1940's, Kay McNulty, a recent math graduate from Chestnut Hill College, was employed along with about 75 other young female mathematicians as a "computer" by the University of Pennsylvania's Moore School of Engineering. These "computers" were responsible for making calculations for tables of firing and bombing trajectories, as part of the war effort. The need to perform the calculations more quickly prompted the development of the ENIAC, the world's first electronic digital computer, in 1946.
Kay McNulty Mauchly Antonelli recalls computing in 1946:

"We did have desk calculators at that time, mechanical and driven with electric motors, that could do simple arithmetic. You'd do a multiplication and when the answer appeared, you had to write it down to reenter it into the machine to do the next calculation. We were preparing a firing table for each gun, with maybe 1,800 simple trajectories. To hand-compute just one of these trajectories took 30 or 40 hours of sitting at a desk with paper and a calculator. As you can imagine, they were soon running out of young women to do the calculations. Actually, my title working for the ballistics project was `computer.' The idea was that I not only did arithmetic but also made the decision on what to do next. ENIAC made me, one of the first `computers,' obsolete.​

And Edith Clarke ..

In 1918, Edith left to enroll in the EE program at MIT, earning her MSc. degree (the first degree ever awarded by that department to a woman) in June 1919. In 1919, she took a job as a computor for GE in Schenectady, NY, and in 1921 filed a patent for a "graphical calculator" to be employed in solving electric power transmission line problems.

And so on ....

 

[Riverwolf]

Just thought this would be a good topic for the philosophy section.

What do you think about girls? Are they sexy, lame or totally awesome?

Just like guys, but with a slightly different (and more pleasing) body structure, lacking in a Y chromosome, and able to have children.

 

[MaxPayne]

:frog:

Always look good from a distance. I think they are silly

What do you think about girls? Are they sexy, lame or totally awesome?

Sexy :yes:

lame :yes:

Totally awesome :beach:, Depends on the individual and her attitude.