Global warming

[TagliatelliMonster]

Maybe I can see our problem better now.

When an astronomer says the world rotates he's including that rock 500km down. When a politician says he'll tell the world what's happening, he's only talking about the people he can contact. Wording is different between science and politics and my mistake here was thinking we were dealing w/ a scientific issue. This is politics and I don't do politics that well.

Cheers

Dude, are you trolling?

Global warming deals with climate. Climate occurs on the planet's surface.

I'm going to assume you are just trolling. I find it very hard to believe you are actually being serious here.

 

[ratiocinator]

OK, here's the new analysis:

173,000 terawatts solar energy strikes the Earth​

1 watt year = 7,536 kcal/ one watt year​

1.30372E+21 kcal/yr = 1 year sun per earth​

5.97E+24 kg Earth - Mass​

3,665 years earth sunlight for one degree C​

4.6E+15 greenhouse power watt year​

3.46654E+19 greenhouse power kcal/year​

1.37E+21 kg water on planet​

399 years antropgenic Ocean warming for 1.5C​

Same conclusion, different path.

Usually when an expert publishes his paper he first hires a proofreader to check what he said. I'm too cheap, I just post what I find here & get my mistakes all found for free. Thanks!

Not got time to go through all of this now, but,

1. Why are you even using kcal, rather than sensible SI units?
2. A Watt is a unit of power; Joules (energy) per second. You seem to want to make things complicated.
3. Why did you bring in the whole Earth's mass again? The interior is heating the surface.

Earth's internal heat budget - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Earth's internal heat budget is fundamental to the thermal history of the Earth. The flow of heat from Earth's interior to the surface is estimated at 47±2 terawatts (TW) and comes from two main sources in roughly equal amounts: the radiogenic heat produced by the radioactive decay of isotopes in the mantle and crust, and the primordial heat left over from the formation of Earth"

The sun doesn't need to heat the whole earth. This is a complex, dynamic system. The earth needs to radiate all the energy it's getting from the sun and its interior. Greenhouse gasses increase the thermal resistance of the atmosphere, so the surface temperature has to increase.

And do you really think you know better than climate scientists?

 

[wellwisher]

Not got time to go through all of this now, but,

1. Why are you even using kcal, rather than sensible SI units?
2. A Watt is a unit of power; Joules (energy) per second. You seem to want to make things complicated.
3. Why did you bring in the whole Earth's mass again? The interior is heating the surface.

Earth's internal heat budget - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Earth's internal heat budget is fundamental to the thermal history of the Earth. The flow of heat from Earth's interior to the surface is estimated at 47±2 terawatts (TW) and comes from two main sources in roughly equal amounts: the radiogenic heat produced by the radioactive decay of isotopes in the mantle and crust, and the primordial heat left over from the formation of Earth"

The sun doesn't need to heat the whole earth. This is a complex, dynamic system. The earth needs to radiate all the energy it's getting from the sun and its interior. Greenhouse gasses increase the thermal resistance of the atmosphere, so the surface temperature has to increase.

And do you really think you know better than climate scientists?

The inner earth science theory, used by the climate models, is not keeping up with the inner earth science discoveries. Science has discovered, which I speculated decades ago, that water is continuous from the atmosphere to the core of the earth. This water exists in different phases and changes phase based on the inner layers of the earth, as we go deeper into the earth.

One extra energy source was discovered inside the earth. This involves inner earth water reacting with material at the earth's iron core. I also predicted that, but not exactly the way they discovered. Water at that depth is in an exotic phase called ionic water, which is like an acid and base; ions. My theory the H+ acid rusts the core and the base gains electrons forms the silicates. Extra electron also reach the surface as evident of the slight negative charge of the oceans and ground lightning. This is all driven by solar evaporation which separates the hydrogen bonding of liquid water molecules and makes the atmosphere slightly positive. There is an extra Internal energy source that is huge that is driven by the sun but is connected to the inner earth.

Research indicates that over billions of years, surface water has been transported deep into the Earth by descending, or subducted, tectonic plates. Upon reaching the core-mantle boundary, about 1,800 miles below the surface, this water triggers a profound chemical interaction, altering the core’s structure.

https://news.asu.edu/20231113-earths-surface-water-dives-deep-transforming-cores-outer-layer#:~:text=Research%20indicates%20that%20over%20billions,interaction%2C%20altering%20the%20core's%20structure.

The theory of the solar evaporation driving these reaction is evident in another science discovery. Seismic data shows the inner earth material is denser north to south than at the equator; east to west. The spinning of the earth cannot account for these chemical differences but only a parallel displacement of similar material. The fluffier equatorial material to the core, appears to be an artifact of water and electron exchange, driven by the solar maximum at the equator.

Another discovery is the core of the earth is spinning faster than the surface. This was not expected but now it has an energy source.

Song and Richards calculated that over a year, the inner core rotates about one longitudinal degree more than the Earth's mantle and crust, meaning the inner core makes a complete revolution inside the Earth in about 400 years.Jul 30, 2004

 

[Ebionite]

Global warming deals with climate. Climate occurs on the planet's surface.

Warming is about heat, and geothermal energy is a form of heat.

"Antarctica is behaving in a way we've never seen before" Link

"Hiding beneath the massive Antarctic Ice Sheet lies one of the densest clusters of volcanoes in the world." Link

 

[Subduction Zone]

Warming is about heat, and geothermal energy is a form of heat.

And it is accounted for in models. Geothermal heat is energy that varies minimally. It is also not a very large source of heat. If you like I could easily look up the rate of geothermal energy leaving the Earth.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Warming is about heat, and geothermal energy is a form of heat.

"Antarctica is behaving in a way we've never seen before" Link

"Hiding beneath the massive Antarctic Ice Sheet lies one of the densest clusters of volcanoes in the world." Link

That's nice. But it's not relevant to the point made at all.

 

[Ebionite]

That's nice. But it's not relevant to the point made at all.

I doubt that you even know what the point is.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I doubt that you even know what the point is.

You didn't make a point

 

[Ebionite]

You didn't make a point

You're deflecting. You comment referred to someone else's point, not mine.