We've already hit and passed the tipping point. Global climate change is not just a threat. It's here. Extreme weather is here.
But like I tell the other climate deniers, it's not important to anybody but those who depend on you and the decisions you make whether you accept any of this. Here's what's coming. Already, insurance rates for structures are increasing. My wife's girlfriend in California had her insurer cease doing business in her state, and her new carrier wanted $4000/yr. up from $2000. That alone makes her home less valuable. So does the threat of wildfire razing it. Do you want to buy her home knowing that it costs twice as much to insure and is twice as likely to burn down than when she bought it decades ago?
Now extrapolate. A time will come when some homes are no longer sellable except at fire sale prices nor insurable. And then a fire, tornado, or hurricane will level it. Somebody's going to get stuck with a mortgage but no home and no home equity. And who will that be? The last climate deniers, the people who never realized that that had been wrong until it was too late. You're a candidate for that now, but if you smarten up soon enough, you can sell to somebody still in the dark and preserve your wealth. If you don't - well, you get the drift.
It doesn't matter to me who that is. It's fine if it's you.
Your posting is a bit of an enigma. First, I read the above followed by a series of posts explaining to you that global warming was not about warming the whole globe, but mostly about the oceans and atmosphere.
Then you wrote, "We have determined that most of the mass of the earth is not warming, but that the atmosphere is warming and it's what we now need to look at. iow, the vast majority of the earth's mass is the part that is not the atmosphere, so we can say that most of the mass is not warming. We agree that we don't have global warming, and we are now discussing whether we have atmospheric warming."
Good. You've got it now.
Then later, I came across this: "I'm concerned about the fact that there simply is not enough heat energy coming from the sun to heat the globe that fast. The 4 x 10^13 kcal/year we're getting would take over a hundred billion years to heat the globe that much."
How did you relapse like that?
Incidentally, how long does it take the sun to heat up your community? Here's the forecast for today for where I live. It looks like the sun will warm the air about 16 deg F in about 12 hours. Your math doesn't model the reality
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Same issue. The sun isn't warming the entire ocean, just the shallower waters. That's where hurricanes form - where the atmosphere meets the ocean.
Hopefully, you're aware that the oceans are warming at their surfaces as is the air and even the ground, but only to a very short depth. Those are the things that are getting warmer, and they represent a minority of the earth and its oceans. I don't know if the atmosphere is hotter in all of its layer, but they are in the troposphere, the lowest layer.
Regarding land surface warming, have you heard about
urban heat islands? Concrete absorbs and holds heat better than dirt making the cities hotter than surrounding rural areas. It's predicted that in Phoenix, before long, there will be days when the temperature never falls below 100 deg F even at night. And if everybody is running A/C, that's heating the atmosphere along with the sun:
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If you'd actually bothered to learn anything about this subject, you'd know that this was just loose terminology. If you search for the temperature of the earth, you'll get lots of links to the temperature of the surface.
