God, creation and humanity

[Jayhawker Soule]

True, but the literalist perspective on Genesis is only one aspect of the encoded meaning(s).

Thank you, thank you, thank you, oh detector of encoded meanings.

 

[Charity]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, oh detector of encoded meanings.

Thank you for detecting the detector......... Now we need a detector for the detector that detects the detector of encoded meanings.....Do we have a volunteer?:shout

 

[Random]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, oh detector of encoded meanings.

No problem! Anytime you need help with scriptural conundrums, you just let me know. :slap:

 

[Charity]

No problem! Anytime you need help with scriptural conundrums, you just let me know. :slap:

I think this could be justification.........

 

[fantome profane]

The Bible doesn't attempt to prove God, it assumes Him.

I won’t argue this, but I would suggest that some people may interpret this assumption as a critical flaw.

 

[Charity]

I won’t argue this, but I would suggest that some people may interpret this assumption as a critical flaw.

No problemo.......... They have the right to disagree if they desire to.....

 

[camanintx]

The Bible doesn't attempt to prove God, it assumes Him. The Bible begins with the assumption that God exists and that He existed eternally before He created humanity and placed life on earth. No where in the scripture is chance taught for the creation of the universe or the human race. God created matter out of nothing and formed it into living objects. The Bible does not tell us how the human race and the universe were actually created. It does assert the premise that God brought it all into being.

Those that reject the Biblical version of creation start with presuppositions on which their claims are based. Everyone has their own assumption but is it able to be proven scientifically? On what evidence do our assumptions rest?

Why should we assume that something can be created out of nothing when we have never observed it happen?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Why should we assume that something can be created out of nothing when we have never observed it happen?

The Big Bang, quantum vacuum fluctuations, ....

 

[Charity]

The Big Bang, quantum vacuum fluctuations, ....

I knew the big bang " thang" would surface at some point......

 

[camanintx]

The Big Bang, quantum vacuum fluctuations, ....

Do you think either of these started with nothing?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Do you think either of these started with nothing?

I don't presume to know. Do you?

 

[camanintx]

I don't presume to know. Do you?

The Big Bang makes no predictions about what may have preceded this universe, so it is just as likely that there was something rather than nothing.

As for the experiments in quantum fluctuation, they always seem to start with something too.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I don't presume to know. Do you?

The Big Bang makes no predictions about what may have preceded this universe, so it is just as likely that there was something rather than nothing.

As for the experiments in quantum fluctuation, they always seem to start with something too.

I'll take that as a less than coherent "No" ...

 

[Willamena]

Why should we assume that something can be created out of nothing when we have never observed it happen?

Did your question exist before you asked it?

 

[camanintx]

Did your question exist before you asked it?

My question came from my understanding of cosmology and my comprehension of the English language, both of which existed before my question.

 

[jaimesal]

The biblical version of Creation is not exact or precise, so it lacks a unique interpretation. Just a fact.

 

[Willamena]

My question came from my understanding of cosmology and my comprehension of the English language, both of which existed before my question.

But not the question, itself --and was there a time before your comprehension of the knowledge referenced existed?

 

[logician]

The Big Bang makes no predictions about what may have preceded this universe, so it is just as likely that there was something rather than nothing.

As for the experiments in quantum fluctuation, they always seem to start with something too.

According to most multiverse theories, "something" has always been.

 

[camanintx]

But not the question, itself --and was there a time before your comprehension of the knowledge referenced existed?

Yes, but like the question, it came from what preceded it, not from nothing.

 

[Charity]

There may be some genuinely profound and meaningful questions that are forever beyond the reach of science......Richard Dawkins