God did not create the Universe

[Midnight Pete]

Perhaps...

PA, why is there so much resistance to the idea of an intelligently designed universe?

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

PA, why is there so much resistance to the idea of an intelligently designed universe?

It seems like an archaic idea I guess...and people turn to science to provide alternative answers...which it cannot in this area...certainly not yet...if ever.

 

[David M]

PA, why is there so much resistance to the idea of an intelligently designed universe?

The total lack of evidence for such a postulate would be one good reason.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

The total lack of evidence for such a postulate would be one good reason.

That depends on what you consider evidence...

 

[Midnight Pete]

The total lack of evidence for such a postulate would be one good reason.

I understand, but isn't it unbecoming of a freethinker to run away from using his imagination? That's what always gets me about so-called freethinkers: their closemindedness and lack/fear of imagination.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

I understand, but isn't it unbecoming of a freethinker to run away from using his imagination? That's what always gets me about so-called freethinkers: their closemindedness and lack/fear of imagination.

Well said christian.

 

[PolyHedral]

I understand, but isn't it unbecoming of a freethinker to run away from using his imagination? That's what always gets me about so-called freethinkers: their closemindedness and lack/fear of imagination.

You can suppose that the universe is made of cheese, but unless you can back it up, it isn't worth anything.

 

[David M]

I understand, but isn't it unbecoming of a freethinker to run away from using his imagination? That's what always gets me about so-called freethinkers: their closemindedness and lack/fear of imagination.

Unfortunately imagination needs some form of confirmation from reality, without that it remains imagination.

Freethinkers do not lack or fear imagination, they just object when people assert, without evidence, that imaginary things are real.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

You can suppose that the universe is made of cheese, but unless you can back it up, it isn't worth anything.

What can you back up the alternative with then?

 

[Midnight Pete]

Unfortunately imagination needs some form of confirmation from reality, without that it remains imagination.

Yes, and ... ?

Freethinkers do not lack or fear imagination, they just object when people assert, without evidence, that imaginary things are real.

Okay, so the only problem freethinkers have with imagination is that deals with the imaginary and not the actual. Gotcha.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

Okay, so the only problem freethinkers have with imagination is that deals with the imaginary and not the actual. Gotcha.

Hehehe

 

[waitasec]

Yes, and ... ?



Okay, so the only problem freethinkers have with imagination is that deals with the imaginary and not the actual. Gotcha.

what? i thought truth wasn't as important as hope and love...
common pete...at least be consistent.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

what? i thought truth wasn't as important as hope and love...
common pete...at least be consistent.

Hmm?

I don't see how Pete is being self contradictory..

 

[Midnight Pete]

what? i thought truth wasn't as important as hope and love...
common pete...at least be consistent.

Love, Hope and Truth are IMO equally important and not independent of one another. In fact, these three are bound up in the substance of each other.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

Love, Hope and Truth are IMO equally important and not independent of one another. In fact, these three are bound up in the substance of each other.

I hope that people learn the truth about love.

That Love is all you need.

 

[Skeptisch]

That depends on what you consider evidence...

In the scientific realm we look for scientific evidence.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

In the scientific realm we look for scientific evidence.

Do we now?

And what scientific evidence do you have says no God exists?

LOL

It also depends on what you think the scientific evidence points to....interpretations vary.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

I think there is plenty of scientific evidence to point to a creator...plenty.

I cite the propensity of the universe to generate life forms as an example...it fits in the hypothesis...

 

[PolyHedral]

What can you back up the alternative with then?

Apparently, lots of maths and experiments.

Love, Hope and Truth are IMO equally important and not independent of one another. In fact, these three are bound up in the substance of each other.

But the universe would still be here if there was nobody to love and nothing to hope for.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

Apparently, lots of maths and experiments.

You think there is math and experimentation out there that empirically concludes the universe spawned itself into existence?

That is utterly flawed a belief...science cannot look beyond initial inflation...before time began...locked as the observer is within the universe I have already illustrated repeatedly.