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"God is a woman"

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
" In a lecture delivered before the New York Academy of Medicine in 1933, on “Immaculate Conception—a Scientific Possibility”, Dr. Walter Timme, eminent endocrinologist, presented evidence to prove that Immaculate Conception is physiologically possible. The parovarium of the female reproductive organs, he claims, in some cases can produce living spermatozoa capable of impregnating eggs in the same body, causing them to develop without male fertilization. "

I am recorded 24/7 so there is proof that I haven't had sex in over a year, I also have a being growing in my womb, it will be exiting when I am full term and the gift is given to the world.

Apparently, this already happens to %1 of the population, this is an 'old' way of birth that can only happen under certain circumstances.

Exiting times :)

Well you'll be famous then. I'll keep an eye out for ya. ;)
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
He is talking about physiological differences that affect bith sexes (not genders) separately. A transgender is biologically male, for example. Male traits. Everything male but gender or psychological make up that makes him a female regardless of his physiological state.

Thats more what Im referring to.

As for jesus, Im talking about his father. What traits does his father have that makes him male? What identifies the creator as male before Moses wrote the first word of scripture and before jesus was born?

There is a difference between gender and gender identity. Biological gender is chromosomal. Gender identity is psychological. Since God is not human, he does not have physical characteristics of a human i.e. primary and secondary sex characteristics. So it all boils down to gender identity which is psychological. According to Jesus, who's word I believe, God obviously is comfortable being identified as a man.

As far as pre-Jesus goes. I am not sure. The only thing I can think of is God made Adam first then Eve afterwards. But I wouldn't say for certain that it indicates God is male, maybe? /shrug
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Because I don't believe God actually has a gender. Just that he identifies as a specific gender, which is male.
Those statements contradict each other. If god has no gender, this entity wouldn't identify as male or female. I agree that if there is a being worthy of being called god then things such as sex and gender would be "lesser" and useless to this entity. But if this entity did identify as either, or both, or something else entirely, and has a sexual anatomy, that means, inherently, the statement of god having no gender is false.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Those statements contradict each other. If god has no gender, this entity wouldn't identify as male or female. I agree that if there is a being worthy of being called god then things such as sex and gender would be "lesser" and useless to this entity. But if this entity did identify as either, or both, or something else entirely, and has a sexual anatomy, that means, inherently, the statement of god having no gender is false.

God does not have a sexual anatomy. He is not human. He has no DNA, chromosomes, or sexual characteristics. All we can go by is his psychological identity. He seems comfortable with Jesus using masculine pronouns many times over in the NT.

So should we believe someone who identifies as a gender not related to their chromosomes? Should we believe someone when they say they are a gender that does not match their primary or secondary sex characteristics?

I say yes. If someone wants me to use a masculine or feminine pronoun based on what they feel, not their genetics, I say ok. I can respect that.

But to say that someone has to identify with the primary or secondary sex characteristics or their chromosomes, is akin to undoing the work of trans activist over the last 50 or so years.
 
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The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
I know, but that's what I mean. They just trying to get Christians riled up specifically.
Ah, okay. I see what you're getting at, but still I'm a stickler for language lol...

God doesnt have a gender if you took out the history and scripture. Christians say god existed before scripture was written. Until then, why would he be either gender until it was written by authority of male than female.
For myself, I would assume it based on the word used; "god" rather than "goddess".

From our limited perspective, looking at what we can see about creation. It makes sense to say God is feminine as the majority of creation is from a 'female' space, a womb or a egg? no? If we believe this God is the creator......
And what of the rain that inseminates the fecund soil? The seed that penetrates and germinates? It's awfully one-sided to see the font of creation as a purely feminine effort.

You're right, the Christian God isn't feminine.

It's the Judaic G-d that's feminine.
No, even the Hebrew god is male - Yahweh. His consort, Asherah of the Waves, was feminine though.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Ah, okay. I see what you're getting at, but still I'm a stickler for language lol....

A stickler for language?

Your thread title reads 'God is a Woman'.
I'm guessing that you meant 'God is Female'.

And since you wanted to only address Christians in the Christian DIR I'm guessing that you really meant ' The Christian God is Female'.

Anyway........ Sure. God is Female, of course, since the only God that truly rules over us totally, universally, is Mother Nature. We've always accepted that she is female.

:p
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
There is a difference between gender and gender identity. Biological gender is chromosomal. Gender identity is psychological. Since God is not human, he does not have physical characteristics of a human i.e. primary and secondary sex characteristics. So it all boils down to gender identity which is psychological. According to Jesus, who's word I believe, God obviously is comfortable being identified as a man.

As far as pre-Jesus goes. I am not sure. The only thing I can think of is God made Adam first then Eve afterwards. But I wouldn't say for certain that it indicates God is male, maybe? /shrug

Yeah. Its the last part I was wondering. Gender identity. Of course, a woman's mind will act on physiological changes to protect her baby and a male will protect the female. Whats interesting is gender identity. If you took both biological and physiological (defined in video) away, what is gender identiy. I know LGB identity but not the identity related to ones gender.

If jesus didnt exist or was not god, how would a Muslim define god as male other than what is written by men in both the quran and bible.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Ah, okay. I see what you're getting at, but still I'm a stickler for language lol...


For myself, I would assume it based on the word used; "god" rather than "goddess".


And what of the rain that inseminates the fecund soil? The seed that penetrates and germinates? It's awfully one-sided to see the font of creation as a purely feminine effort.


No, even the Hebrew god is male - Yahweh. His consort, Asherah of the Waves, was feminine though.

If you took the convinence noun and label god and goddess out, what (rather than who) is "god"?
 

uns4

New Member
Hi, I'm the original poster of the thread without quotation marks.

I guess I should clarify. I do believe God is both male and female I just choose to focus on her female aspects. To me God's anger is masculine and her Grace is feminine, most Christians focus on her Grace and I am no different.

I am sorry if my generalizations offended anyone, I didn't mean for that I just wanted to hear other opinions.

On God being a lesbian it boils down to me focusing on her feminine aspects and her only known romantic relationship was with a woman. So to me, a feminine being who's had a child with a woman would be a lesbian.

Thank you.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
God does not have a sexual anatomy.
That you know of.
All we can go by is his psychological identity. He seems comfortable with Jesus using masculine pronouns many times over in the NT.
That means then, he has a male/masculine gender and is not genderless.
I say yes. If someone wants me to use a masculine or feminine pronoun based on what they feel, not their genetics, I say ok. I can respect that.
That's fantastic. But it doesn't mean they lack a gender, but rather have a masculine or feminine gender. Someone without would be considered neuter. The best we have in English for this is "it," but using that word to describe someone is considered rude, and better reserved for inanimate objects. German has a neuter/gender neutral was (das), but even a German Bible uses masculine nouns to refer to Jehovah. This implies god does have a masculine/male gender.
 

Apologes

Active Member
For a Christian there is really no basis for a belief in a female God. All references to God are masculine and the incarnation itself had to do with a man. You could say these were just tools for its time (since men were valued more) but this only leaves you with uncertainty regarding Gods gender and pure baseless speculations.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I can't post in the Christian DIR section, but wanted to address this.

No, the Christian god is not feminine. Named, he is Yahweh, and very much a male deity. If a non-descript deity - "God" - is female, then it would be better termed goddess, or even just deity (as that's gender neutral).
suits me....God might be feminine

I've always gotten along with the ladies
 

DennisTate

Active Member
I can't post in the Christian DIR section, but wanted to address this.

No, the Christian god is not feminine. Named, he is Yahweh, and very much a male deity. If a non-descript deity - "God" - is female, then it would be better termed goddess, or even just deity (as that's gender neutral).

On the other hand.....
I have difficulty arguing against the idea that God the Mother might just =
God the Holy Spirit???

That is either in chapter 2 or chapter 3 of this NDE account:

Spirituality

When I was a child, I was most comfortable with seeing God literally as my "Heavenly Father" and I would hear from Him speaking to me with a voice I can only think to call male. Even today, with my enlightened way of seeing and thinking about God, I am still often comforted by a vision of God as a kind, strong, older man. Especially as it is becoming more obvious that we are living in a world where there is so little well-balanced male leadership and honest-to-goodness integrity!

Yet at the same time, I am aware that my Soul has had many lifetimes and existed in many religious belief systems where I have been comforted by the conscious notion of God as a masculine presence. But I know in my Heart of Hearts that God ALSO exists as a Divine Feminine presence. For years now my Spirit has told me that this is the part of God we see as, "The Holy Spirit." And since I am mentioning this here, I also want to make it quite clear that I believe our world and humanity has developed a tremendous unbalance due to the fact that The Divine Feminine has not been properly regarded in our religious systems. I think in order to have a healthy Self image of your own Spirit, you need to have both masculine and feminine principle represented and properly regarded. Until then the ego will define gender roles for us and subject many people to unnecessary trials and tribulations.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I figure how life first started off was asexual meant life arose genderless, and for those who really neeed a definition, asexual means without sex.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
If you took the convinence noun and label god and goddess out, what (rather than who) is "god"?
At best (going off the root word of 'ghut',) "that which is worshiped" - forces of nature or geographical presence. At worst, nothing. Without words to define something, everything becomes a complete meaningless mess. My point is that "god" is the masculine form of the word, "goddess" the feminine. Saying "God the mother" doesn't really logically work; it's like saying "The man was having her period".
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
That means then, he has a male/masculine gender and is not genderless.

He is genderless as far as biologically speaking, because he has no biology. He identifies as a male according to Jesus who refers to him as male repeatedly. Just going by what information I have. But who knows, I may get to heaven and God is feminine. /shrug wouldn't change anything at all.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
And that it does. It is appropriate to refer to God as she as well as he, since God is neither she won't mind.

Anybody can refer to God as any gender or genderless which is fine. There is no right or wrong answer, because gender doesn't really apply to God.

But if someone identifies as a gender not matching their biology. Then it's just common courtesy and respect for you to identify them as such.

It may not seem like a big deal to anyone else. But if you can't respect someone's identity this is a slippery slope with dire consequences. And I am not talking about making God angry and him bringing wrath etc. I am talking about people not respecting each other and dire consequences result.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
If jesus didnt exist or was not god, how would a Muslim define god as male other than what is written by men in both the quran and bible.

I don't know, because I am not Muslim or Jewish. You would have to ask them their thoughts on that.
 
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