God is disproven by science? Really?

[MrIntelligentDesign]

I can see that you still do not understand the scientific method and the burden of proof. The burden of proof always falls upon the person making the positive claim. Believers in Intelligent Design have the burden of proof for their silly ID claims. And why are they silly? Because the people for that idea cannot find any evidence for it .


When we say that life is evolved and people ask for evidence, we can gladly give them endless evidence that fits the criterion for scientific evidence. To date no one on the ID side can do the same. In a scientific debate one has to support one's own claims for one's own beliefs. You are not responsible for supporting the ideas of one's opponent. if they cannot do that they have lost the debate. That is why you lost to Aron Ra and everyone else in the past. They could support their beliefs. You could not support yours.

I understood the burden of proof. But you must understand that it was Evolution and supporters of Evolution who had initially claimed that there is no intelligence in Biology or reality. The worst part or the result was that you had equated Artificial Selection and Natural Selection in one spectrum. That is a claim, but Evolutionists like you did not support that claim. You know that is a stupidity!

The second stupidity was when scientists and best thinkers wanted to define intelligence by using Evolution as basis. They had invented 71 definitions and could never answer question in Biology or Physics or Cosmology, like if cell or particles are intelligently designed or not! WTF!!! By using Evolution as basis, you cannot answer question from those field of science?? STUPID!

You have the initial burden of proof since you had claimed that there is no intelligence. I am a late comer. I did start on 2005 AD, Evolution was started on 1859 AD. I am free-lance scientist. Evolution is being granted with almost all supports from government about money etc.

You see how stupid Evolution is?

 

[MrIntelligentDesign]

Why the need to crush others?

AronRa is an atheist, or Satanist, so he thought that Evolution is the best science explanation, like stupid Dawkins, who had both messed intelligence and reality.

To crush religious belief was their goals. But in science, they could never crush the new ID <id>. They will be crushed.

Next month I will be discussing science again. I am inviting you to join and see.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I understood the burden of proof. But you must understand that it was Evolution and supporters of Evolution who had initially claimed that there is no intelligence in Biology or reality. The worst part or the result was that you had equated Artificial Selection and Natural Selection in one spectrum. That is a claim, but Evolutionists like you did not support that claim. You know that is a stupidity!

The second stupidity was when scientists and best thinkers wanted to define intelligence by using Evolution as basis. They had invented 71 definitions and could never answer question in Biology or Physics or Cosmology, like if cell or particles are intelligently designed or not! WTF!!! By using Evolution as basis, you cannot answer question from those field of science?? STUPID!

You have the initial burden of proof since you had claimed that there is no intelligence. I am a late comer. I did start on 2005 AD, Evolution was started on 1859 AD. I am free-lance scientist. Evolution is being granted with almost all supports from government about money etc.

You see how stupid Evolution is?

Nope. They never claimed that there was no intelligence. They pointed out that no one had provided any evidence for an intelligence.

And please, quit trying to claim that you are a scientist.

 

[Spirit of Light]

AronRa is an atheist, or Satanist, so he thought that Evolution is the best science explanation, like stupid Dawkins, who had both messed intelligence and reality.

To crush religious belief was their goals. But in science, they could never crush the new ID <id>. They will be crushed.

Next month I will be discussing science again. I am inviting you to join and see.

You do not let people think for them selves? They HAVE TO agree with your "discovery" ? Or else they are idiots?

 

[MrIntelligentDesign]

Apparently you have invented a whole lot about it and have answered no questions for your efforts.

I summarized intelligence in one universal definition and explanation, and apply that, for example, in Biology. As a result, I falsified Evolution and replaced Evolution.

 

[Subduction Zone]

AronRa is an atheist, or Satanist, so he thought that Evolution is the best science explanation, like stupid Dawkins, who had both messed intelligence and reality.

To crush religious belief was their goals. But in science, they could never crush the new ID <id>. They will be crushed.

Next month I will be discussing science again. I am inviting you to join and see.

Evolution is the only scientific explanation. You don't have an explanation. You only have rather ignorant unsupported claims.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I summarized intelligence in one universal definition and explanation, and apply that, for example, in Biology. As a result, I falsified Evolution and replaced Evolution.

Nope. This is a delusion that you hold. You never did that.

 

[MrIntelligentDesign]

Nope. They never claimed that there was no intelligence. They pointed out that no one had provided any evidence for an intelligence.

And please, quit trying to claim that you are a scientist.

It is the same of claiming that there was no intelligence since they had messed intelligence. They had equated Artificial Selection to Natural Selection, like equating a stupid worker to a smart worker! That is STUPIDITY!

Thus, that is a claim! So the logical question is: what is intelligence from Evolution and why they used that definition?

Then, let us use that definition in Biology..

You see how stupid Evolution is?

I am more than a scientist. I discovered intelligence and will change the course of science and its history.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It is the same of claiming that there was no intelligence since they had messed intelligence. They had equated Artificial Selection to Natural Selection, like equating a stupid worker to a smart worker! That is STUPIDITY!

Thus, that is a claim! So the logical question is: what is intelligence from Evolution and why they used that definition?

Then, let us use that definition in Biology..

You see how stupid Evolution is?

I am more than a scientist. I discovered intelligence and will change the course of science and its history.

Nope. Not the same at all. And you have shown that you are not a scientist.

 

[MrIntelligentDesign]

Evolution is the only scientific explanation. You don't have an explanation. You only have rather ignorant unsupported claims.

You do not let people think for them selves? They HAVE TO agree with your "discovery" ? Or else they are idiots?

I told them to redefine intelligence and use that in Biology, Cosmology and Physics, or manufacturing. They could not.
I had been doing this for almost 12 years.

Yes, basically if you dis-agree with me, either you are right or you are wrong. You will only be right if you rediscover intelligence that is better than mine, Thus, any critics of mine that has no clue on intelligence are simply idiots.

If I say or claim that Evolution is wrong and if I do not have a replacement for evolution, like Biological Interrelation, Bits, from the new <id>, and without knowing intelligence, I will be stupid and idiot like them. No I cannot do that.

In science, you either put up if you are right, and SHUT UP, if you have no clue on the topic.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I told them to redefine intelligence and use that in Biology, Cosmology and Physics, or manufacturing. They could not.
I had been doing this for almost 12 years.

Yes, basically if you dis-agree with me, either you are right or you are wrong. You will only be right if you rediscover intelligence that is better than mine, Thus, any critics of mine that has no clue on intelligence are simply idiots.

If I say or claim that Evolution is wrong and if I do not have a replacement for evolution, like Biological Interrelation, Bits, from the new <id>, and without knowing intelligence, I will be stupid and idiot like them. No I cannot do that.

In science, you either put up if you are right, and SHUT UP, if you have no clue on the topic.

You can't even define your bogus term. By the way, please heed your last sentence.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I told them to redefine intelligence and use that in Biology, Cosmology and Physics, or manufacturing. They could not.
I had been doing this for almost 12 years.

Yes, basically if you dis-agree with me, either you are right or you are wrong. You will only be right if you rediscover intelligence that is better than mine, Thus, any critics of mine that has no clue on intelligence are simply idiots.

If I say or claim that Evolution is wrong and if I do not have a replacement for evolution, like Biological Interrelation, Bits, from the new <id>, and without knowing intelligence, I will be stupid and idiot like them. No I cannot do that.

In science, you either put up if you are right, and SHUT UP, if you have no clue on the topic.

So every scientists who has for years studied evolution are idiots,but your 12 years make you a genious?
I don't believe in your theory

 

[MrIntelligentDesign]

So every scientists who has for years studied evolution are idiots,but your 12 years make you a genious?
I don't believe in your theory

Let us assume that I believe in FLAT EARTH. So, I can invent predictions and explanations and falsifications criteria of Flat earth, no matter wrong they are, if many people will call them science since they had no alternatives, then, they will believe in a lie. That is simply Evolution.

Look, Darwin had equated Artificial Selection to Natural Selection... thus, how could you falsify that?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Let us assume that I believe in FLAT EARTH. So, I can invent predictions and explanations and falsifications criteria of Flat earth, no matter wrong they are, if many people will call them science since they had no alternatives, then, they will believe in a lie. That is simply Evolution.

Look, Darwin had equated Artificial Selection to Natural Selection... thus, how could you falsify that?

You do not appear to understand the very foundation of science. For an idea to be a scientific theory or hypothesis it has to be falsifiable. That means that a test has to exist that could possibly refute it if was wrong. The theory of evolution is falsifiable. It has been tested millions of times and never shown to be false. It could still possibly be shown to be false, but no one has come even close. It is a well supported scientific theory.

You can't tell us the predictions that your idea would make and how those could refute it. Your idea is therefore just irrational pseudoscience. It only looks good to the scientifically illiterate.

 

[SkepticThinker]

If you still don’t get it then move along on that, it’s very simple. You either hear or you don’t.

Oh I get that you're equivocating alright. Did you think I wouldn't notice?

No, because they take faith in objects that can’t talk or do anything for you. The theory doesn’t make any sense, doesn’t work anywhere in life.

There is no use for faith in science.
You're the one going on faith, as you've already admitted.

Science can demonstrate it's claims. You cannot, as you've demonstrated on this thread.

 

[F1fan]

I am not proposing.

Don't sell yourself short, you are heavily pushing your religious belief and trying to convince others it is science.

It's toxic religion and invalid as science.

I am checking if there is no intelligence (or smart, intention, etc..) in biological world, as concluded by supporters of Evolution. So, the logical solution is to find the definitions of intelligence (71 of them right now) and use them one by one to solve the problem for Biology.

Well as I point out the existence of genes that cause cancer cells in humans, including children, suggests there is no intelligence in biology. I notice you offer no explanation for why cancer cells exist in some children, and when they do how they could be intelligently designed. You have no answer. And in science you have to answer these kinds of serious challenges to your proposition. It's one thing to have anomalies in the data, it happens. But cancer cells are not an anomaly, they are quite common, and deadly.

Thus, is biological cell intelligently designed or not?

If we use valid science and valid definitions of words: NO.

By using Evolution and its explanations, there is no answer. WHOSE FAULT?

False. In evolution is there is no fault in biology. The only exception is if a parent used drugs or was exposed to toxins that cause birth defects. Again, this might be deliberate or circumstantial. And science has an answer in this case.

Natural birth defects, like Downs Syndrome, there is no "person" to blame for what nature does in science. In religion there would be a God to blame, so if that is what your thinking is you would be correct for theists. God is to blame for birth defects and cancer cells.

If there is no answer, either reality has no intelligence or Evolution is stupid and ignorant of reality, and those supporters of Evolution.

Did you get me?

This forum's group of well educated thinkers get you better than you get yourself. I don't see you understanding your bias and assumptions that influence your beliefs here. You don't seem willing or interested in getting science right, like the rest of us do. We all acknowledge that evolution is a well tested theory that has been examined hundreds of thousands of times and succeeded, and evidence supports this theory more and more as time goes on. The only people who have a problem with evolution are theists who make a set of unwarranted assumptions about a God existing and how it acts on nature.

The funny thing is how your assumptions and beliefs actually point a finger at your idea of God as being responsible for the defects in nature. If someone is to blame then it is your God. Science does NOT assume any God exists, and the defects that occur are just the lottery of life, genes in biology, where most are good, but some are faulty. It's your choice to assume your God is responsible for the intelligent design of cells, and ion so you must condemn your God for causing these cancer cells in children.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Let us assume that I believe in FLAT EARTH. So, I can invent predictions and explanations and falsifications criteria of Flat earth, no matter wrong they are, if many people will call them science since they had no alternatives, then, they will believe in a lie. That is simply Evolution.

Look, Darwin had equated Artificial Selection to Natural Selection... thus, how could you falsify that?

Are you afraid your christian faith does not go along with evolution?

 

[F1fan]

I understood the burden of proof. But you must understand that it was Evolution and supporters of Evolution who had initially claimed that there is no intelligence in Biology or reality.

Why would anyone assume there is intelligence in the design of anything? There is no evidence of it. Function does not imply intelligence or design.

You see how stupid Evolution is?

Not as much as something else.

 

[F1fan]

Let us assume that I believe in FLAT EARTH. So, I can invent predictions and explanations and falsifications criteria of Flat earth, no matter wrong they are, if many people will call them science since they had no alternatives, then, they will believe in a lie.

Flat earth's are irrational people. There is no observation that suggests their false view is true. They can go through many exercises that look like reason and science, but fail at many levels, mostly at the basic assumption level. This is what you have been doing, not evolution. You assume a God (intelligent agent) exists, yet offer no evidence of this. You try to manipulate what is observed by relying on this assumption, which isn't warranted in the first place. So your method is flawed BECAUSE of your assumptions. This is what science avoids.

That is simply Evolution.

False. Evolution is an explanation of what is observed in nature without assuming any intelligences at work. There is no indication of intelligence, so that assumption is thrown out.

Look, Darwin had equated Artificial Selection to Natural Selection... thus, how could you falsify that?

Darwin made observations of many species having advantages as the environment changed. That was the basis of his hypothesis: that environment affects the breeding and selection of the animals in that environment. It turns out this is a true phenomenon.

 

[ElishaElijah]

There is no use for faith in science.

There isn’t enough faith available to believe the Big Bang or Abiogenesis. Nor the twisted version of evolution.