God is simple, not complex

[Curious George]

This makes no sense at all. Why does movement entail the temporality of the source and cause of movement?

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Because movement entails change.

 

[Reflex]

Only contingent things change. Introducing change DS, or pure act, is a category error.

Please don't be among those who, like most atheists, don't know the difference between contingent and non-contingent being.

 

[Curious George]

Only contingent things change. Introducing change DS, or pure act, is a category error.

Please don't be among those who, like most atheists, don't know the difference between contingent and non-contingent being.

You were the one who introduced change by implying movement. If there is movement there is change. That is why that discussion of movement even analogous movement is wrong unless we are operating with paraconsistent logic...and even then. I am not talking about spatial movement here. But movement in any form requires change.

 

[prometheus11]

Only contingent things change. Introducing change DS, or pure act, is a category error.

Please don't be among those who, like most atheists, don't know the difference between contingent and non-contingent being.

The word does not imply the being. There is no evidence of non-contingent beings.

 

[outhouse]

like most atheists, don't know the difference between contingent and non-contingent being

You do not get to talk down to anyone here sir.

How many non-contingent beings exist ?

 

[Lighthouse]

And that is all you have to go on.


You only define your concept based on what you believe, the same exact way these people wrote what the believed.

Its all faith based rhetoric that my god is more true then yours.

It has always been a never ending cycle of man defining deities at will


So we only have one certainty, not gods exist outside mythology

You only define your concepts based on what you believe God is also.
That is all faith based also. You believe God is a deity and gods are deities.
It has been a never ending cycle of atheists defining God and gods as a deity and deities at will.
We have a certainty... that those gods and God exists in your mind as knowledge.

 

[Lighthouse]

moving goal post?

Of course, only your God and god concepts and perceptions only exist correct?

 

[Lighthouse]

Atheists get that God is a completely different being. Atheists just don't give God's uniqueness a pass on his detectability. Believers don't require that their God meet any standard of evidence to exist, they just presume his existence.

You believe that God is a him.

This entire discussion is that God is not "a" being.

 

[outhouse]

You only define your concepts based on what you believe God is also.

No

There is a difference between faith and knowledge.

. You believe God is a deity and gods are deities

I know the god concept is a deity in most religions, they just do not understand the polytheistic origins or compilations of multiple deities into one.

It has been a never ending cycle of atheists defining God and gods as a deity and deities at will.

We are stating the evidence, based on evidence.

Theist define deities 1000 times more then any atheist who state they are mythological and religious creations.

We have a certainty... that those gods and God exists in your mind as knowledge.

Yes we see the mythological origins, and the mythological evolution of the concept.

 

[Lighthouse]

Sure it is.

We stand as people who refuse to keep making ancient mens mistake of believing ancient mythology is credible.

Most theist think Santa is a made up character, but the similarities to god are identical, not everyone stops believing in the concept, and accepts reality for what it is.

Nobody is talking about ancient mythology being credible. . those are your gods.

 

[outhouse]

You believe that God is a him.

No.

I know for a fact, he the concept was a male deity, and is still viewed as father to many.

This entire discussion is that God is not "a" being.

OP went off in that direction, but "God is simple, not complex" is the context no matter what philosophical argument was used in support of his personal position.


WELCOME to the forum

 

[outhouse]

Nobody is talking about ancient mythology being credible. . those are your gods.

No

Those are the only gods that exist at this time.

 

[outhouse]

only your God and god concepts and perceptions only exist correct?

False

How many people exist? "most" believe in their own version and define it in their conscious mind based on the religious heritage they were raised with, tied to the geographic location they were born.

 

[Lighthouse]

No

There is a difference between faith and knowledge.



A know the god concept is a deity is most religions, they just do not understand the polytheistic origins or compilations of multiple deities into one.



We are stating the evidence, based on evidence.

Theist define deities 1000 times more then any atheist who state they are mythological and religious creations.



Yes we see the mythological origins, and the mythological evolution of the concept.

Perhaps you should look into acquiring knowledge of the God and gods that are being discussed and not only the ones you conceive of in mythology and have knowledge of. Expand your knowledge.
You have knowledge of God and god concepts, would that make you a theist?
Atheists define God and gods as mythological and religious creations.

 

[prometheus11]

You believe that God is a him.

This entire discussion is that God is not "a" being.

No. I don't believe God exists.

 

[Lighthouse]

False

How many people exist? "most" believe in their own version and define it in their conscious mind based on the religious heritage they were raised with, tied to the geographic location they were born.

Indeed they do, but these are not the concepts being discussed in this thread.

 

[Lighthouse]

No. I don't believe God exists.

You gave God a male pronoun title. Your definitions of God exists in your mind.

 

[Lighthouse]

They simply know they have NOTHING to support their position.

We see them tap dancing around the lack of evidence, and its not humorous, its rather sad for me to see.

My goal is to promote the advancement of humanity, to advance knowledge, and I see so many trying to put up road blocks to knowledge, saying we have to keep making ancient mens mistakes of jumping over imaginative mythological hurdles.

Nobody is talking about ancient men's mythology and the deities you have knowledge of.

Please provide support that God or gods must be how you define them.

 

[Lighthouse]

if god exist in your mind, what does he do outside of your conscious mind???????????

Everything exists in your mind. There is no you outside of you.

 

[prometheus11]

You gave God a male pronoun title. Your definitions of God exists in your mind.

No. I often use "it," but I tend to use "he" because of the culture I live in.