God Recreated the Earth 6,000 Years Ago!

[Ben Dhyan]

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[McBell]

According to Scripture God had No start, God had No beginning - Psalms 90:2

Since God is also Creator, and Not a creation, then the Creator can Not have been created. God would have life within himself. Self contained.

God used that life within Himself - that power and strength - His abundant dynamic energy to create both the invisible realm and then the visible realm.- Isaiah 40:26; Psalms 104:30

So then life does not HAVE to come from life, because god is a life that has not come from life.

Thanks for clearing that up.
Oh, and I would suggest you stop spreading the falsehood that life has to come from life....

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Genesis 2:4 is meaningless.
You should be re-reading Genesis 1.
For each creative day, there is "an evening and a morning".
And morning and evening is a cycle for each day; none of the 6 verses are any different in length of time, which is "an evening and a morning".
Evening is a specific time of a day. And morning is a specific time of a day.
I don't know what you have been reading, but clearly each day was not of unspecified length. You have to be utterly ignorant or a great big liar, to not see that a day consisted of "an evening and a morning", repeated 6 times:

1. Genesis 1:5 (1st day) And there was evening, and there was morning —
2. Genesis 1:8 (2nd day) And there was evening, and there was morning —
3. Genesis 1:13 (3rd day) And there was evening, and there was morning —
4. Genesis 1:19 (4th day) And there was evening, and there was morning —
5. Genesis 1:23 (5th day) And there was evening, and there was morning —
6. Genesis 1:31 (6th day) And there was evening, and there was morning —

Do see any of the above verses that show that time weren't specific?
To me, they didn't have length of time, and clearly each evening and morning was referring to a normal day.
What it is certain, is that each of those day doesn't mean 1000 years or 1 million years.

Evening starts in the evening and ends at morning. Not evening to evening, or morning to morning.

Genesis 2:4 says ' in the day ' God created. ALL of the creative days are summed up by the single word: day

Even only the daylight hours ( Not 24-hours long ) are called ' day ' at Genesis 1:5

 

[URAVIP2ME]

So then life does not HAVE to come from life, because god is a life that has not come from life.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Oh, and I would suggest you stop spreading the falsehood that life has to come from life....

According to Scripture God is Not non-life. - Psalms 90:2 - God never was non-life.
Angelic life had a start, human life had a start, animal life had a start, all from the original starter of ' created life ' from our Creator - Revelation 4:11
Anything that is a creation comes from already existing life. The Creator is Not a creation otherwise He would Not be the Creator.
Sorry I was Not more clear about which life has to come from life. Created life only comes from already created life which originated with our living Creator.
Also, our Creator is also called as Heavenly Father and the word father means: life giver.
Our Creator is our Life Giver, and we give life, pass on life, from already existing created life.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

There is nothing in genesis that is in harmony with any nature or biology.
Well then, you better pick up the book and read again, because it clearly states a 24 hour day is just that.
And by the way, science knows what and when the earth had different rotation speed changing daylight hours. They were shorter the further we go back in time.
Genesis has nothing to do with the earths origins or human origins. It is known as creation mythology in all credible academic circles

Please post the verses about a clear 24-hr day
ALL of the creative days are summed up by the word ' day ' at Genesis 2:4
Does that mean all of the creative days were created in a 24-hour time frame ?
The daylight hours - Genesis 1:5 - are Not 24-hrs long but the daylight hours are called by the word ' day '
Your grandfather's day was Not a 24-hr day but an unspecified period of time.
God's 7th day was still on going in the apostle Paul's day - Hebrews 4:4-11

 

[gnostic]

Evening starts in the evening and ends at morning. Not evening to evening, or morning to morning.

We, today, measure a day - from midnight to midnight, and we have technology to measure time by seconds, minutes and hours.

The ancient people may not able to measure the time, to the second, but can measure from sunrise to sunrise, or from sunset to sunset, because sunset or sunrise, is actually more recognizable than midnight.

Time, especially a day don't have to be divided into 24 hours. Measurement don't require 24-hour day, to measure a day.

So if have the technology to know when midnight will occur, why is it so hard for you to believe that the ancient Hebrews measure each day from-dusk-to-dusk?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Clearly the 'days' in Genesis are a figure of speech indicating a very long period of time...an aeon...take Genesis 1:9-13 covering the period of the one 'day'...we see the land appear, followed by the seas, then we see vegetation appear, which includes trees growing to produce seeds and bearing fruit...

For those who think the 'day' is meant to be understood as a period of 24 hours.....even not considering the time involved in the creation process of dry land and seas......how often do you watch a seed being planted which results in the tree growing to maturity and producing fruit in 24 hours?

Genesis 1:9 Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so.12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. 13 There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

 

[outhouse]

Does that mean all of the creative days were created in a 24-hour time frame ?

I'm sorry but evidence shows when Genesis was written time was almost exactly what it is now.

Day Time has factually only increased from the past.

 

[outhouse]

God's 7th day was still on going in the apostle Paul's day

Not much needs to be said, other then I'm sad people are so confused with all the education we have teaching reality.

 

[`mud]

Never bring a knife to a gun fight !
There's damned too much of them !
You'll run out of shells,
and look out then !
~
or sumthin like that
~
'mud

 

[McBell]

According to Scripture God is Not non-life. - Psalms 90:2 - God never was non-life.
Angelic life had a start, human life had a start, animal life had a start, all from the original starter of ' created life ' from our Creator - Revelation 4:11
Anything that is a creation comes from already existing life. The Creator is Not a creation otherwise He would Not be the Creator.
Sorry I was Not more clear about which life has to come from life. Created life only comes from already created life which originated with our living Creator.
Also, our Creator is also called as Heavenly Father and the word father means: life giver.
Our Creator is our Life Giver, and we give life, pass on life, from already existing created life.

Now you are merely chasing your own tail.

 

[gnostic]

Anything that is a creation comes from already existing life. The Creator is Not a creation otherwise He would Not be the Creator.
Sorry I was Not more clear about which life has to come from life. Created life only comes from already created life which originated with our living Creator.
Also, our Creator is also called as Heavenly Father and the word father means: life giver.
Our Creator is our Life Giver, and we give life, pass on life, from already existing created life.

Now you are merely chasing your own tail.

Yeah...it's circular reasoning if I ever saw one.

And, it still rely on superstitious belief of the supernatural.

Seriously, if God is a spiritual non-corporeal being, how can something that incorporeal affect creation of corporeal matters, such as life? There is absolutely nothing natural about creation of life, from invisible, incorporeal spirit, aka the Creator aka (Heavenly) Father.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Your no one to tell other people of their potential or lack of.




Many hold fanaticism and fundamentalism so deep they refuse to accept reality, despite factual evidence.

So are we salt water bags or something more?

 

[BilliardsBall]

"No" what?

And since you keep bringing up "Genesis", isn't it rather logical that the content and possible intent of the author(s) be considered? If you don't want to discuss this, then why did you bring "Genesis" up to begin with?

I agree. The Genesis flood account is clearly of a universal, not local event, of a specific duration and with specific persons involved.

 

[outhouse]

So are we salt water bags or something more?

We are more salt water then any other element. But thanks for playing.

The reason is mammal life factually evolved from the sea.

 

[outhouse]

The Genesis flood account is clearly of a universal, not local event,

YOU have not provided a date, because it did not happen.

It is clearly mythology by all credible academic sources. The same ones you refuse. This is taught worldwide as fact. But somehow you refuse these facts

 

[metis]

I agree. The Genesis flood account is clearly of a universal, not local event, of a specific duration and with specific persons involved.

You agree with what?

Flood narratives show up in about 2/3 of all religious traditions, which leaves 1/3 that doesn't. In most of those societies that have that tradition, guess what: they occasionally at least have some issues with flooding. Not only isn't there one shred of evidence for a worldwide flood, the real evidence points in the other direction, namely that there hasn't been any.

But the most important thing is that you're missing the importance of the Flood narrative as found in Genesis, namely the values and morals that are taught within it. In that context, whether the Flood had occurred or not is superficial to the lessons taught within.

 

[gnostic]

Clearly the 'days' in Genesis are a figure of speech indicating a very long period of time...an aeon...take Genesis 1:9-13 covering the period of the one 'day'...we see the land appear, followed by the seas, then we see vegetation appear, which includes trees growing to produce seeds and bearing fruit...

For those who think the 'day' is meant to be understood as a period of 24 hours.....even not considering the time involved in the creation process of dry land and seas......how often do you watch a seed being planted which results in the tree growing to maturity and producing fruit in 24 hours?

Genesis 1:9 Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so.12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. 13 There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

While it is true that Genesis 1 say nothing about hours, like 24 hours, but verses 5, 8, 13, 19, 23 & 31, does indicate each day to be cycle of evening and a morning.

No where does Genesis 1 even hint at each day being some unspecified aeon. You are ignoring the quote you have given in verse 13, which clearly stated that the 3rd day comprised of "evening" and "morning":

13 There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

You are simply twisting the context of what Genesis 1 is saying, which amounts to your dishonesty.

Clearly the 'days' in Genesis are a figure of speech indicating a very long period of time...an aeon...take Genesis 1:9-13 covering the period of the one 'day'...we see the land appear, followed by the seas, then we see vegetation appear, which includes trees growing to produce seeds and bearing fruit...

For those who think the 'day' is meant to be understood as a period of 24 hours.....even not considering the time involved in the creation process of dry land and seas......how often do you watch a seed being planted which results in the tree growing to maturity and producing fruit in 24 hours?

No one said that the Genesis creation myth have to be historically or scientifically true or logical. It is a myth after all, in which miracles defy the natural law.

This is why the bible should be taken on in FAITH, not as scientific or historical facts.

Without superstitious beliefs in the miracles of divine will, there is no religion.

FAITH = religion; FAITH is never equal to facts, otherwise if religion equals to facts, then you wouldn't need FAITH.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

While it is true that Genesis 1 say nothing about hours, like 24 hours, but verses 5, 8, 13, 19, 23 & 31, does indicate each day to be cycle of evening and a morning.

No where does Genesis 1 even hint at each day being some unspecified aeon. You are ignoring the quote you have given in verse 13, which clearly stated that the 3rd day comprised of "evening" and "morning":


You are simply twisting the context of what Genesis 1 is saying, which amounts to your dishonesty.


No one said that the Genesis creation myth have to be historically or scientifically true or logical. It is a myth after all, in which miracles defy the natural law.

This is why the bible should be taken on in FAITH, not as scientific or historical facts.

Without superstitious beliefs in the miracles of divine will, there is no religion.

FAITH = religion; FAITH is never equal to facts, otherwise if religion equals to facts, then you wouldn't need FAITH.

I have said nothing about Genesis except to point out that the language of Genesis1:9-13 is such that it implies a long period of planetary geological changes....an aeon ....meaning a long period of time...

 

[gnostic]

I have said nothing about Genesis except to point out that the language of Genesis1:9-13 is such that it implies a long period of planetary geological changes....an aeon ....meaning a long period of time...

And I am saying that Genesis 1:9-13 say no such thing about aeon "passed", because the only reference to time in those 5 verses is that the evening and morning would make up a day...just the same as those 5 other verses.

I am not saying this is what happened historically or scientifically. This is what the those verses actually say in the Genesis.

What you are saying about there being "aeon" is not found in any verse in Genesis 1, and you have to twist words around to make what you believe it saying.

The only other time when Genesis speak of time OTHER THAN - "morning" and "evening", or "day" (light) and "night" (darkness) - is on the 4th day (1:19), in which the sun and moon would indicate what year or season is what, concerning the calendar (1:14:19):

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. 17 God set them in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.

There is no aeon, no millennia, no century and no decade, ANYWHERE in Genesis 1.

Why do you think EVERYTIME it mention one of those creative days, it ALWAYS referred to that "day", as being "And there was evening and there was morning..."

This "...there was evening and there was morning..." is specifying what period this day is. It doesn't read "...there was 1000 years, in the 2nd day..." or "...there was one billion years in 4th day..."

It is clear how it specify a creative day...why are you and other creationists are so blind that you can't see what in front of you? You (not just you, but "you" in general) all overlook something that give context

Until the translation specifically say that a day = 1000 years or 1 million years in Genesis 1, you are speculating or making thing up.

What you are speculating or interpreting, doesn't make it true.