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You have one, surely, too
I dislike people perverting reality by throwing out all credible academic knowledge due to mythology they know nothing at all about.
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You have one, surely, too
Except that there are no Hebrew version of Gilgamesh in which the hero seek out Noah, eg in Genesis.
Two, the Babylonian narrative wasn't derivative of Genesis, but the other way around. Genesis only appeared in the 1st millennium Iron Age, perhaps as early as the 9th century BCE (J-source), but certainly from 7th century BCE onward (E-source early 7th century BCE; D-source late 7th century BCE; P-source 6th century and 5th century BCE).
Where as (A) the Sumerian Ziusudra have been around the 2nd half of 3rd millennium BCE, (B) Old Babylonian Atrahasis has been around since 19th or 18th century BCE, (C) mid-2nd millennium BCE (to 1st century BCE) Middle Babylonian Utnapishtim.
Tablets of Gilgamesh have been found in Sumerian poems, and Old Babylonian tablets, all the way to time of Neo-Assyrian and Neo-Babylonian periods. There have never been complete Bronze Age tablets discovered, but when you compared the Standard Version from Neo-Assyrian tablets from the Library of Nineveh to all the fragments of the 2nd millennium Bronze Age tablets, you would see that they are almost word-for-word the same, indicated that Old Babylonian epic of Gilgamesh most likely have the almost identical contents and styles as that of later Standard Version, whether the Flood hero be named Atrahasis or Utanapishtim.
It is during the Middle Babylonian period that story of Gilgamesh and the Flood had spread outside of Mesopotamia, and clay tablets (fragments) were found in Egypt (city of Amarna that was built by Amenhotep IV, better known as Atkenaten, 1353 - 1336 BCE), Hattusa (Old Hittite Kingdom), in the city of Ugarit (Ras Shamra) and in the Canaanite city of Megiddo, all dated to between 16th and 14th centuries BCE, long before the historical existence of Israel.
The only historical evidence to Bronze Age Israel is from the Egyptian inscriptions on the Merneptah (1213 - 1203 BCE), son of Ramesses II, from the New Kingdom 19th dynasty.
There are no evidences to support monotheism in Bronze Age Canaan. The Hebrew god by the name of El, only exist in 8th or 7th century BCE, but it originated from Bronze Age Canaan, Syria and Ugarit, during the 2nd millennium BCE.
You really don't know what you are talking about, when you say the Babylonian epics were derivative of Genesis. Genesis didn't exist when Ziusudra first appeared. There are no evidences to support any Bronze Age Hebrew Noah, as written tradition or as oral tradition.
I dislike people perverting reality by throwing out all credible academic knowledge due to mythology they know nothing at all about.
in literary criticism we would take the far more detailed and sophisticated narrative as the original.
Except the Babylonian narrative predates our writing of Genesis by around 1000 years. Also, our area (eretz Israel) was not a flood zone but Babylon certainly had it's share of flooding.Yes, you can look up both the Gilgamesh hero search for the forebears and also the dating of the accounts. However, in literary criticism we would take the far more detailed and sophisticated narrative as the original.
I appreciate science and history.
. I know the Bible record well
Not "all" academics agree with everything you have asserted and continue to assert.
Except the Babylonian narrative predates our writing of Genesis by around 1000 years. Also, our area (eretz Israel) was not a flood zone but Babylon certainly had it's share of flooding.
No you do not. You only accept a personal perverted version, throwing out what every credible university teaches on the topic.
You know the mythology and rhetoric and apologetic rhetoric, but not the credible biblical records.
You would be factually in error.
Its why you have no sources ever, to substantiate any claims you make. Because there are not any
Babylon certainly had it's share of flooding.
And what are you citing as a date for the authorship of Genesis?
I know the Bible 20 times better than you
Most scholars say around the 6th century b.c.e. or later, but it's possible that at least some of the oral tradition may predate that.And what are you citing as a date for the authorship of Genesis?
. I can defend what I believe
Most scholars say around the 6th century b.c.e. or later, but it's possible that at least some of the oral tradition may predate that.
Gotta go.
Yes, you can look up both the Gilgamesh hero search for the forebears and also the dating of the accounts. However, in literary criticism we would take the far more detailed and sophisticated narrative as the original.
I teach it at a college? and studied at universities.
You refuse academia where? at a church
I have seen no credible biblical knowledge from you. I have never seen a credible YEC to date.
Why do ALL credible universities world wide, teach the exact opposite of all your claims.
I believe that there are two accredited bible colleges in the us that still teach YEC, but I am not sure. (In other words, they give "regular" degrees as well as theological degrees).