god should be put on trial

[ProfLogic]

For people who believe in the bible, god should be put on the trial.
For murder, manipulation, and for abuse of humanity, what do you think? As the good old book says humanity is always put to the test, why not put god to the test and see if he is worthy.

 

[Smoke]

For murder, manipulation, and for abuse of humanity, what do you think?

If he doesn't exist, you can't put him on trial. If he does, you should be breaking out in leprosy any minute now.

 

[Faint]

Like Marilyn Manson said, if God was alive you know we'd kill him.

God would lose this trial. Too much pain/tragedy/suffering/disease/starvation/rape/murder/Fox News/child molestation/evil/natural disasters allowed by a being that supposedly has the power to stop/change/improve such things.

But what would the sentence be? Send him to hell? Crucify him again? Lock him into a gigantic hamster wheel and harness his power as an eternal source of clean energy?

 

[kai]

judge not lest you be judged

 

[9harmony]

i think God has been on trial for millenia. though not in a court of law, but in our every day lives for as long as we have walked this earth.

 

[logician]

No god would create Bush, because it would be guilty of both stupidity and cruelty.

 

[SoyLeche]

God would lose this trial. Too much pain/tragedy/suffering/disease/starvation/rape/murder/Fox News/child molestation/evil/natural disasters allowed by a being that supposedly has the power to stop/change/improve such things.

Unless, of course, God were able to show that all of this fit together with everything else to produce the greater good. Seeing as he knows a lot more than we do, I'll let him work that one out. We see so very little, in the grand scheme of things.

 

[ProfLogic]

If he doesn't exist, you can't put him on trial. If he does, you should be breaking out in leprosy any minute now.

No leprosy yet. only a rash, I did feel a fiery wind but found out it was my computer fan. lol

 

[ProfLogic]

But what would the sentence be? Send him to hell? Crucify him again? Lock him into a gigantic hamster wheel and harness his power as an eternal source of clean energy?

I would just say eternally reading the infamous bible would be punishment enough.

 

[jewscout]

For people who believe in the bible, god should be put on the trial.
For murder, manipulation, and for abuse of humanity, what do you think? As the good old book says humanity is always put to the test, why not put god to the test and see if he is worthy.

do you believe in G-d?

 

[ProfLogic]

Unless, of course, God were able to show that all of this fit together with everything else to produce the greater good. Seeing as he knows a lot more than we do, I'll let him work that one out. We see so very little, in the grand scheme of things.

It knows a lot more, I beg to differ since the claim was the bible or scriptures were inspired by god all the things mentioned were all in the ancient times. Humanity had evolved and nothing was written on the technologies that are now available today. it knows the large scheme of things, no way, it only knows what humans are willing to share. It can't even control its own creation let along know its plan. Always putting man to the test because it does not know what to do nor how to end it all. Man has not improved since the bible was written, people still fight for land, religion and worse now people molest the innocence ohh was it acceptable in ancient times?

It knows nothing special that is why all screw ups of this world is on its shoulders. If you believe in the last judgement then before I go I would definitely approach it give it a good lecture. Be with something that won't do what you like in life is punishment eternal......

 

[BucephalusBB]

do you believe in G-d?

He obviously doesn't

If he does exist, I still don't think that humans are the most important beings on this planet. SO then everybody should be on trial for killing little animals, and stealing their grounds.. :sleep:

 

[SoyLeche]

It knows a lot more, I beg to differ since the claim was the bible or scriptures were inspired by god all the things mentioned were all in the ancient times. Humanity had evolved and nothing was written on the technologies that are now available today. it knows the large scheme of things, no way, it only knows what humans are willing to share. It can't even control its own creation let along know its plan. Always putting man to the test because it does not know what to do nor how to end it all. Man has not improved since the bible was written, people still fight for land, religion and worse now people molest the innocence ohh was it acceptable in ancient times?

It knows nothing special that is why all screw ups of this world is on its shoulders. If you believe in the last judgement then before I go I would definitely approach it give it a good lecture. Be with something that won't do what you like in life is punishment eternal......

As soon as you offer any proof of what you are saying, we'll talk.

All you are really saying is that if God were a falible human being, he'd be guilty of a lot. As an omnicient and perfect divine being though, we really don't have anything to compare him to. Apples and oranges my friend.

 

[evearael]

For people who believe in the bible, god should be put on the trial.
For murder, manipulation, and for abuse of humanity, what do you think? As the good old book says humanity is always put to the test, why not put god to the test and see if he is worthy.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you believe if God, as portrayed in scriptures, is real, He is responsible for all the bad things that have ever happened or will happen. Do you also believe Him to be responsible for all of the good? Do you feel the evil in this world far outweighs the good? Do you believe that free will can exist if we are only permitted good? Do you believe everything being good is worth denying free will? Frankly, I've got plenty of questions for Him too, as I think most believers do, but I would not condemn Him because of my exceptionally brief experiences living when compared to eternity without even remotely comprehending the reasons He chose for things to happen as they do.

 

[ProfLogic]

If I'm understanding you correctly, you believe if God, as portrayed in scriptures, is real, He is responsible for all the bad things that have ever happened or will happen. Do you also believe Him to be responsible for all of the good? Do you feel the evil in this world far outweighs the good? Do you believe that free will can exist if we are only permitted good? Do you believe everything being good is worth denying free will? Frankly, I've got plenty of questions for Him too, as I think most believers do, but I would not condemn Him because of my exceptionally brief experiences living when compared to eternity without even remotely comprehending the reasons He chose for things to happen as they do.

In my book, as defined in society if you do 1000 good things and 1 evil thing like in this case murder, you as society says are evil. I am basing it on the bible since people always claimed its god inspired.... In the story of Noah, as I recollect every one was murdered except for noah and his family and 2 pairs of land animals I believe... The people then as it sauid was evil .. because of what, becasue they acted the way they see fit, as themselves. In the bible OT, it admitted that it killed all those people and that it would not do it again. In religious wars, one would say "their god is stroger than the other, god is on their side". People die because of their strong beliefs in their god. In the end it just watches in todays society if you see a crime and watch, you can be charged as an accomplish. I rest my case for now...

 

[ProfLogic]

If I'm understanding you correctly, you believe if God, as portrayed in scriptures, is real, He is responsible for all the bad things that have ever happened or will happen. Do you also believe Him to be responsible for all of the good? Do you feel the evil in this world far outweighs the good? Do you believe that free will can exist if we are only permitted good? Do you believe everything being good is worth denying free will? Frankly, I've got plenty of questions for Him too, as I think most believers do, but I would not condemn Him because of my exceptionally brief experiences living when compared to eternity without even remotely comprehending the reasons He chose for things to happen as they do.

In my book, as defined in society if you do 1000 good things and 1 evil thing like in this case murder, you as society says are evil. I am basing it on the bible since people always claimed its god inspired.... In the story of Noah, as I recollect every one was murdered except for noah and his family and 2 pairs of land animals I believe... The people then as it sauid was evil .. because of what, becasue they acted the way they see fit, as themselves. In the bible OT, it admitted that it killed all those people and that it would not do it again. In religious wars, one would say "their god is stroger than the other, god is on their side". People die because of their strong beliefs in their god. In the end it just watches in todays society if you see a crime and watch, you can be charged as an accomplice. I rest my case for now...

 

[MaddLlama]

Sorry, you're too late:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1576068.html

Besides, you can litigate someone who doesn't exist.

 

[SoyLeche]

It knows nothing special that is why all screw ups of this world is on its shoulders. If you believe in the last judgement then before I go I would definitely approach it give it a good lecture. Be with something that won't do what you like in life is punishment eternal......

I think we should take bets on how long it takes during this little lecture before God explains it and you say, "Oh, I see. You were right. Carry on." I'm guessing 2 minutes. (You will let us know, won't you?)

 

[jewscout]

In my book, as defined in society if you do 1000 good things and 1 evil thing like in this case murder, you as society says are evil. I am basing it on the bible since people always claimed its god inspired.... In the story of Noah, as I recollect every one was murdered except for noah and his family and 2 pairs of land animals I believe... The people then as it sauid was evil .. because of what, becasue they acted the way they see fit, as themselves. In the bible OT, it admitted that it killed all those people and that it would not do it again. In religious wars, one would say "their god is stroger than the other, god is on their side". People die because of their strong beliefs in their god. In the end it just watches in todays society if you see a crime and watch, you can be charged as an accomplish. I rest my case for now...

you rest nothing!
the Noah story has far compexities in it than the few chapters in Genesis dedicated to the story
a little Kaballah for you:
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/moray/Was_Noah_a_Good_and_Just_Man$.asp
there is little in the story of Noah's Ark that describes the exact actions of the people of the time to simply say "The people then as it sauid was evil .. because of what, becasue they acted the way they see fit, as themselves" that is entirely misleading and you base this upon nothing but your own opinion, certainly not scripture or other religious text.

in regards to your comment on "religious wars" many wars and atrocities that have been lumped together and the blame placed on religion can find, if you look at the historical documenation, that many of the causes of them are grounded in things like drive for power and greed that have little to do w/ the religions used as excuses...
crusades for example...a far more complex situation than simply "religious war"

Political considerations were also important. The Crusades were a response to appeals for help from the Byzantine Empire, threatened by the advance of the Seljuk Turks. The year 1071 had seen both the capture of Jerusalem and the decisive defeat of the Byzantine army at Manzikert, creating fear of further Turkish victories. In addition, the hopes of the Papacy for the reunification of East and West, the nobility's hunger for land at a time of crop failures, population pressure in the West, and an alternative to warfare at home were major impulses.

The Crusades were equally a result of economic circumstances. Many participants were lured by the fabulous riches of the East; a campaign abroad appealed as a means of escaping from the pressures of feudal society, in which the younger sons in a family often lacked economic opportunities. On a larger scale, the major European powers and the rising Italian cities (Genoa, Pisa, and Venice) saw the Crusades as a means of establishing and extending trade routes.

http://website.lineone.net/~ssleightholm/dict/glossary/crusade.htm

 

[MaddLlama]

you rest nothing!

I have to derail this train wreck for a moment and just point out that, that made me giggle uncontrolably.

Ok, anyway....