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God/Yahweh/Allah I BELIEVE started as volcanic activity

outhouse

Atheistically
It is a matter of historicity that no experts have so far worked out the mysteries of the Bible.

this is blatantly false


there are no mystery's in the bible. this is a matter of education.



There is plenty of evidence the exodus, or something based on it, exists. Firstly, there is the account in the Bible....facts mixed with exagerations and downright lies.


its called mythology, I suggest you read the definition.

there is a complete lack of evidence for the exodus. the OT was never ment to be a history book or used as such. scholarships and historians and archeologist and Egyptologist all claim no evidence exist from a culture that recorded everything.


how can a people that didnt start until 1200 BC speak of a migration of people they knew nothing of.

Israelites, Canaanite origins are not up for debate its a fact.


The religion is the evidence of the Exodus

false again and not real history

all people and all tribes had religion in that time.

these people were all polytheistic people and brought their multiple deities with them when the different cultures developped the Israelite's

yahweh existed long before Israelites were a culture and existed almost a thousand years before the exodus legend was written about.




For more on the above, please Google 'hail in the Bible' and you will find some of my posts, one of which explains how these Thamidic inscriptions can be seen across the Sinai and into Saudi.


why wasit my time on personal religious interpretations that no historian or scholar follows??
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Which one was it?


its a obscure name, takes a while to search for. It should be in the beginning of this post, but i'll see if I can find it again.

theres not a lot of work done on this due to the age of these early legends
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I might add that this person is just promoting his false history here, he has a complete track record all over the internet at every site that wil alow him to try and pass this off. hes been busy in the last year.

makes searching for real information a lot tougher with all his post popping up
 

outhouse

Atheistically
here it is

Kabiri (Phœn.) or the Kabirim. Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, some of whom - as Terah, Abram’s father - worshipped them under the name of Teraphim. With the Christians, however, they are now devils, although the modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.

The Timeless Kabiri


ancient hebrews had volcanic deities and made no bones about it and didnt hide them in and above all NO imagination is needed.
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
this is blatantly false


there are no mystery's in the bible. this is a matter of education.






its called mythology, I suggest you read the definition.

there is a complete lack of evidence for the exodus. the OT was never ment to be a history book or used as such. scholarships and historians and archeologist and Egyptologist all claim no evidence exist from a culture that recorded everything.


how can a people that didnt start until 1200 BC speak of a migration of people they knew nothing of.

Israelites, Canaanite origins are not up for debate its a fact.




false again and not real history

all people and all tribes had religion in that time.

these people were all polytheistic people and brought their multiple deities with them when the different cultures developped the Israelite's

yahweh existed long before Israelites were a culture and existed almost a thousand years before the exodus legend was written about.







why wasit my time on personal religious interpretations that no historian or scholar follows??

There is a PHD being written as we speak :rolleyes:
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
here it is

Kabiri (Phœn.) or the Kabirim. Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, some of whom - as Terah, Abram’s father - worshipped them under the name of Teraphim. With the Christians, however, they are now devils, although the modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.

The Timeless Kabiri


ancient hebrews had volcanic deities and made no bones about it and didnt hide them in and above all NO imagination is needed.

So you finally agree that the ancient Hebrews worshipped volcanoes. :clap
 

outhouse

Atheistically
if you payed half attention, and quit spamming this garbage on every site you can dream up

you would have known I already stated they semi worshipped a volcano while they were polytheistic. the evidence is very very weak here, and never a primary deity in any way shape or form. you could state they were henotheistic in this respect

Israelites main deities were El, Yahweh, Asherah and Baal. not a volcano ever

BUT! due to your severe ignorance on Yahweh and closed mind, you still do not understand the polytheistic nature of ancient Israelites and the deities they worshipped, and the time period they worshipped them.
 
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The Fog Horn

Active Member
if you payed half attention, and quit spamming this garbage on every site you can dream up

you would have known I already stated they semi worshipped a volcano while they were polytheistic. the evidence is very very weak here, and never a primary deity in any way shape or form. you could state they were henotheistic in this respect

Israelites main deities were El, Yahweh, Asherah and Baal. not a volcano ever

BUT! due to your severe ignorance on Yahweh and closed mind, you still do not understand the polytheistic nature of ancient Israelites and the deities they worshipped, and the time period they worshipped them.

You comtradict yourself in your own comment. One line says they did worship a volcano and the next says they didn't...ever. I do not recall you ever saying the Hebrews did worship volcanoes....but then maybe you did and didn't at the same time.

My closed mind cannot help but be open to the fact the Biblical descriptors of the god that 'brought them out of Egypt' are overwhelmingly volcanic. An open minded analysis of Exodus screams 'these idiots worshipped volcanoes'. The rest of the Bible refers back to the 'god that brought....out of Egypt'. No matter what else or who else they worshipped before or after, it was the volcano god that inspired the religion of Judaism.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
you have comprehensive issues to deal with

not worshipped as a primary deity ever, does not mean they didnt worship a minority deity


then you cannot comprehend yahweh has no ties at all to the volcano.



and the exodus has never been known as a historical event, and you base your whole shmeel on it
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
you have comprehensive issues to deal with

not worshipped as a primary deity ever, does not mean they didnt worship a minority deity


then you cannot comprehend yahweh has no ties at all to the volcano.



and the exodus has never been known as a historical event, and you base your whole shmeel on it

The religion of Judaism is based on the Exodus. It says so many times in the Bible. The whole Bible refers back to the Exodus. The religions laws were given after the exodus. Everything points to the Exodus. The Jewish god was at his most visible during and after the exodus. Geographical and historical data matches the story of the Exodus (Santorini). And you're convinced the exodus never happened because lots of experts say it so. How many of those experts can explain why Yahweh is described in volcanic terms numerous times during and after the exodus? How many of those experts have even used the word 'volcano' when discussing the religion of Judaism? Experts know a lot but see little.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
your lost, stop it.

you have no evidence the exodus exist outside mythology.


the exodus, a wooden boat with 2 of every animal, global flood, 6000 year old earth, Cain and Able, ect ect there is alot of mythology in the OT

YOU dont have the education to determine what has or has not historicity with your ignorance on the topic at hand.
 

The Fog Horn

Active Member
your lost, stop it.

you have no evidence the exodus exist outside mythology.


the exodus, a wooden boat with 2 of every animal, global flood, 6000 year old earth, Cain and Able, ect ect there is alot of mythology in the OT

YOU dont have the education to determine what has or has not historicity with your ignorance on the topic at hand.

It doesn't take 'expert knowledge' to work this very simple puzzle out. It takes an ability to empathise and to visualise, and given your brutal refusal to see anything outside of the box that is 'what de experts av already said' it is no surprise you are unable to make your brain compute. You are the last type to see it.
 
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The Fog Horn

Active Member
The Egyptian Moses was murdered and his religion was abandoned, but he had an Egyptian retinue with him, the original Levites. A fair number of them survived the massacre and the putting down of the Aton worship. The Levites became the elite of the Jewish people. The Jewish people emerged out of the confluence of the Jewish tribe which had come from Egypt under the leadership of Moses and the other tribes which had never been in Egypt. The latter had adopted in the desert the cult of the volcano god and their leaders was a Midianite priest, ;et us say Jethro. The decisive event was a compromise. The Levites adopt the volcano god but insist on circumcision as a price, circumcision being an Egyptian institution. Everything else was abandoned except circumcision. What happens later on can be said in a few words. The story of the Exodus from Egypt was rewritten from a volcanistic point of view, just as the sun god became overlaid by the volcano god. And Moses is overlaid by the Midianite priest, the original worshiper of the volcano god. We know nothing, however, about this other Moses. He is entirely obscured by the first, the Egyptian Moses. The only opening might be the clues provided by the contradictions to be found in the bible's charaterisation of Moses. 'He is often enough described as masterful, hot-tempered, even violent, and yet it is also said of him that he was the most patient and meek of all men'.

Jewish Philosophy and the Crisis of Modernity by Leo Strauss.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
It doesn't take 'expert knowledge' to work this very simple puzzle out. It takes an ability to empathise and to visualise, and given your brutal refusal to see anything outside of the box that is 'what de experts av already said' it is no surprise you are unable to make your brain compute. You are the last type to see it.


when education and knowledge on the subject are blind to your ideas

you turn to imagination and ignorance to pawn your idea's



it wont float in this forum, and from what ive read, your failing in every other forum you have joined soley to pawn this garbage off
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Jewish Philosophy and the Crisis of Modernity by Leo Strauss.

LOL :slap:

strauss is a known idiot :areyoucra


following his anti-historical method, your bad mythology now makes much better sense as fiction.


sorry but this website deals with education, not fantasy
 
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