God's Attitude Toward Homosexuality

[Prestor John]

If the god featured in the Bible exists and was a god of love, instead of the very unpleasant entity it is, it would have no problem with homosexuality. Its 'son', that guy, Jesus, could have been gay as he had a disciple whom he loved. If that was the case I hope he had a great sex life.

You assume that "love" outweighs law, order, justice, righteousness and eternal joy?

You believe that God could love us even though He disagrees with what we do?

I don't think you have read the Bible.

 

[JJ50]

You assume that "love" outweighs law, order, justice, righteousness and eternal joy?

You believe that God could love us even though He disagrees with what we do?

I don't think you have read the Bible.

I have read that book more times than you, I suspect. I was a Christian in my youth until I wised up and realised that book is more than likely a human production, the god character being a work of fiction. It has all the worst human characteristics, even the much reviled, Satan, could be no worse.

 

[Katzpur]

Nope, which is why I also have not been judging anyone's worthiness.

Really? Read on...

Anyone who is actively engaged in a homosexual lifestyle is committing grievous sin and are not worthy to partake of the emblems of Christ's sacrifice.

 

[Woberts]

This is assuming that they do not already have equal treatment.

Which they do and then some.

They don't have equal treatment. It is legal to discriminate them in many circumstances.
Why do you think that they are treated equally?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I understand this sentiment and have felt it myself toward certain people from time to time, but I know that it is void of God's love.

When we partake of God's love, we care about how others live their lives, including how they interpret the scriptures.

I care about how you interpret the scriptures and I'm sure that if you thought about it you'd care about how I interpret them too.

If you truly believe I have been led astray because of my interpretation of the scriptures, wouldn't you want to help me understand this and hopefully bring me back to the straight and narrow path by explaining how I am in error?

I truly do not believe that I am in error and I hope that your interpretation of the scriptures includes more than simply ignoring those verses you don't agree with.

I don't believe that a person's sexuality is a clear indicator of who they are.

I don't believe that anyone has the right to force others to do something that violates their religious views or lose their livelihood.

I also don't believe that anyone has the right to change what a marriage is to satisfy their desires.

If you wanted the "same rights" as others, you wouldn't want these things either.

We have a difference of opinion.

Closeted? No.

Quiet? Yes.

I wish everyone was more quiet.

You have proven that you don't really know what I want or think.

I don't care if people sin. We all sin. What I do care about, however, is the organized effort to force me and others to change our beliefs through the manipulation of the media and legislation.

You can do whatever you want as long as you leave me alone.

Changing what marriage is and then forcing me to participate would not be leaving me alone.

You just made ridiculous and unfounded claims about me personally and now you also claim that I am the immature one?

Of course heterosexuality is everywhere. The existence and future of our species depends upon it.

No one's forcing you to participate in anything. Your religion is free to believe whatever it wants about marriage and to bar whatever groups it pleases from being married. Civil marriage and religious marriage are two different things. You have no right to tell non-Mormons that we cannot be married by the government we are citizens of. I'm not part of your sect so your religious rules don't apply to me.

 

[Ellen Brown]

If the god featured in the Bible exists and was a god of love, instead of the very unpleasant entity it is, it would have no problem with homosexuality. Its 'son', that guy, Jesus, could have been gay as he had a disciple whom he loved. If that was the case I hope he had a great sex life.

It is not the Creator who is awful, but many of his repugnant followers.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If the god featured in the Bible exists and was a god of love, instead of the very unpleasant entity it is, it would have no problem with homosexuality. Its 'son', that guy, Jesus, could have been gay as he had a disciple whom he loved. If that was the case I hope he had a great sex life.

My Gods have no problem with homosexuality. Some of Them partook in it Themselves in the myths. Lol. It only seems to be the Abrahamic deity and its followers that has this hatred of LGBT people. I'm not aware of a religion banning homosexuality before Judaism (well, that's what we're told, anyway). It's very strange. Every other culture I'm aware of, from Europe to Asia to Africa to the Americas, pretty much viewed it as just a part of life and allowed it some social space and at least tolerance. So what is it about this Jewish (originally Canaanite) war and storm deity that made it so obsessed with proscribing normal human behavior?

 

[SomeRandom]

My Gods have no problem with homosexuality. Some of Them partook in it Themselves in the myths. Lol. It only seems to be the Abrahamic deity and its followers that has this hatred of LGBT people. I'm not aware of a religion banning homosexuality before Judaism (well, that's what we're told, anyway). It's very strange. Every other culture I'm aware of, from Europe to Asia to Africa to the Americas, pretty much viewed it as just a part of life and allowed it some social space and at least tolerance. So what is it about this Jewish (originally Canaanite) war and storm deity that made it so obsessed with proscribing normal human behavior?

Hmm the Abrahamic God certainly protests too much me thinks.

 

[Prestor John]

Really? Read on...

I was disappointed in this post and thought better of you.

Could you please explain how my sharing the Church's official position on homosexual behavior and the partaking of the Sacrament is somehow me judging the worthiness of others?

If I share any commandment of God with anyone I am inadvertently judging the worthiness of that person?

The brethren declare that homosexual behavior is a "grievous sin" that breaks the law of chastity.

Repentance of grievous sexual sin involves a period, determined by your Bishop, of refraining from partaking of the Sacrament.

This is pretty cut-and-dry and does not require me to make any judgments at all about anyone.

 

[Prestor John]

I have read that book more times than you, I suspect. I was a Christian in my youth until I wised up and realised that book is more than likely a human production, the god character being a work of fiction. It has all the worst human characteristics, even the much reviled, Satan, could be no worse.

Obviously the Bible was written by men, but that is no reason to assume that God is fictional.

Reading the scriptures and actually applying what the scriptures teach into our lives are two very different things.

No one in their "youth" is going to come to any substantial understanding of the character of God.

I know for a fact that this issue boils down to one thing...

What sins are you not willing to give up?

 

[Prestor John]

No one's forcing you to participate in anything. Your religion is free to believe whatever it wants about marriage and to bar whatever groups it pleases from being married. Civil marriage and religious marriage are two different things. You have no right to tell non-Mormons that we cannot be married by the government we are citizens of. I'm not part of your sect so your religious rules don't apply to me.

You forget all those cases of homosexual couples forcing business owners of wedding services, by threat of financial ruin enforced by law, to participate in their weddings despite the owner's strongly held religious convictions to not encourage, participate, accept such behavior?

 

[Prestor John]

It is not the Creator who is awful, but many of his repugnant followers.

You judge God's followers who actually live by His laws and encourage others to do so to be "repugnant"?

 

[Prestor John]

They don't have equal treatment. It is legal to discriminate them in many circumstances.
Why do you think that they are treated equally?

Can you provide a credible example? Nothing anecdotal?

 

[Prestor John]

My Gods have no problem with homosexuality. Some of Them partook in it Themselves in the myths. Lol. It only seems to be the Abrahamic deity and its followers that has this hatred of LGBT people. I'm not aware of a religion banning homosexuality before Judaism (well, that's what we're told, anyway). It's very strange. Every other culture I'm aware of, from Europe to Asia to Africa to the Americas, pretty much viewed it as just a part of life and allowed it some social space and at least tolerance. So what is it about this Jewish (originally Canaanite) war and storm deity that made it so obsessed with proscribing normal human behavior?

God does not hate LGBT people.

 

[Prestor John]

Hmm the Abrahamic God certainly protests too much me thinks.

Why is that?

 

[JJ50]

People tell us what the Biblical god is thinking, when there is not one shred of verifiable evidence it exits.

 

[Prestor John]

People tell us what the Biblical god is thinking, when there is not one shred of verifiable evidence it exits.

How does that prove He is fictional?

 

[james blunt]

According to many Christians god doesn't condemn romantic attraction or sexual attraction between members of the same sex; however, physically acting on that attraction is a huge No-no, even an abomination worthy of the death penalty.

So just what is it about touching pee pees that is so much worse than simply wanting to? What are the inherent underpinnings of this physical transgression that sets it apart from the attraction itself and make it worthy of such severe condemnation?

Physically expressing homosexual attraction is far worse than just than just the attraction because_______________fill in the blank______________ (and no "because the Bible tells me so" kinds of answers please).


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How about God does not care about anything and has no attitude for lacking existence. Let's give your question purpose and reword it .

Do people think homosexuality is ok ?


The majority of heterosexual think it is not ok, but are afraid to say it straight .

A+B = 1

A+A = 0

There is the universal math and real ''laws'' of god and sexual production of babies .

 

[Prestor John]

How about God does not care about anything and has no attitude for lacking existence. Let's give your question purpose and reword it .

Do people think homosexuality is ok ?


The majority of heterosexual think it is not ok, but are afraid to say it straight .

A+B = 1

A+A = 0

There is the universal math and real ''laws'' of god and sexual production of babies .

Can't argue with math.

 

[james blunt]

Can't argue with math.

Exactly , perversion comes in many forms including homosexuality. Sorry if people do not like truth's but objectively sex is for producing babies and not for self gratification .