Treks
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It is beyond me :-S
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God's Attributes .
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It is beyond me :-S
Tumah
Veteran Member
At least a vengeful [Smart_]Guy.You think he is a vengeful God??
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on you.I wonder, what do you make of the following Islamic views I've heard:
1) Tawhid (the doctrine of the oneness of God, for those not in the know
Tawhid or Tauheed means:
=There is none worthy of worship except Allah.
=Allah is unique in Being
=Allah is unique in having all and perfect Noble Attributes [some of which He has disclosed to human, others kept to Himself]
=There is none like Him.
=He has no associates / partners / likes / helpers.
['He' is not used as male gender; it is a Arabic-English grammar matter; unlike English, the Arabic male pronoun does not imply gender; due to non-availabilty of equivalent propnoun, 'He' is closest --though 'He' runs the risk of personification, 'It' runs the opposite risk of depersonification]
God wants believers to imbibe His attributes at human level.
Translation 1= [2;139] Say, ‘We will adopt the religion of Allah; and who is better than Allah in teaching religion, and Him alone do we worship.’
Translation 2= [2:139] Say, ‘We will adopt the Colour of Allah; and who is better than Allah in teaching to get His Colour, and Him alone do we worship.’
More Note 156 @ https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=59®ion=EN&CR=E1,E2&CR=E1,E2
Certainly there are Divine Attributes which human cannot copy, but it is a general matter that human should become like Image of God.
Creation is surely and definitely different than Creator.......We see it in the world too; Engineer is different than the product.
In Islam [and we believe that, in the original form of all religions] God has no associates whatsoever, every other thing including Prophets and other sacred people, are God's creations.
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
In Continuation of Post 2
The First Chapter of holy Quran (Sura Al-Fatiha) mentions four basic attributes of God.
1- Rabbil al-'Alamin --- God creates everything and then fosters everything gradually towards perfection, The Lord of all people (Universal God).
2- Al-Rahman --- This means that without any effort on the part of His creatures, He provides everything that is necessary for their development and progress -- General benevolence.
3- Al-Rahim ----This means that when those of His creatures that are endowed with will and intelligence voluntarily choose to do good and to resist evil, God bestows upon them the highest reward and that reward continues indefinitely --- Special to believers benevolence.
4- Malik e Yaum al-Din --- This means that the ultimate judgement concerning everything rests with Him. Everything owes its origin to Him and the end of everything is also in His hands -- Owner of the day when true faith will dominate.
More Divine Attributes
Al-Mu'iz ------------- The Bestower of honour
Al-Mu'zil ------------The Abaser ; He Who abases the haughty
Al-Samee -----------The All-Hearing
Al-Baseer ----------The All-Seeing
Al-Hakam ---------- The Wise Judge
Al-Adl ---------------The Just
Al-Lateef -------------The Incomprehensible ; The Knower of all subtleties ; The Benignant
Al-Khabeer ---------The All-Aware
Al-Haleem ---------- The Forbearing
Al-Azeem ---------- The Great
Al-Shakir ------------ The Most Appreciating
Al-Aliyy ------------- The High
Al-Kabeer ----------- The Incomparably Great
Al-Hafeez ---------- The Guardian
The First Chapter of holy Quran (Sura Al-Fatiha) mentions four basic attributes of God.
1- Rabbil al-'Alamin --- God creates everything and then fosters everything gradually towards perfection, The Lord of all people (Universal God).
2- Al-Rahman --- This means that without any effort on the part of His creatures, He provides everything that is necessary for their development and progress -- General benevolence.
3- Al-Rahim ----This means that when those of His creatures that are endowed with will and intelligence voluntarily choose to do good and to resist evil, God bestows upon them the highest reward and that reward continues indefinitely --- Special to believers benevolence.
4- Malik e Yaum al-Din --- This means that the ultimate judgement concerning everything rests with Him. Everything owes its origin to Him and the end of everything is also in His hands -- Owner of the day when true faith will dominate.
More Divine Attributes
Al-Mu'iz ------------- The Bestower of honour
Al-Mu'zil ------------The Abaser ; He Who abases the haughty
Al-Samee -----------The All-Hearing
Al-Baseer ----------The All-Seeing
Al-Hakam ---------- The Wise Judge
Al-Adl ---------------The Just
Al-Lateef -------------The Incomprehensible ; The Knower of all subtleties ; The Benignant
Al-Khabeer ---------The All-Aware
Al-Haleem ---------- The Forbearing
Al-Azeem ---------- The Great
Al-Shakir ------------ The Most Appreciating
Al-Aliyy ------------- The High
Al-Kabeer ----------- The Incomparably Great
Al-Hafeez ---------- The Guardian
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arthra
Baha'i
The Badi or Baha'i calendar is full of the attributes of God ...Each month and there are nineteen of them is named after an attribute of God.
I'll supply a list of them translated into English:
Splendor
Glory
Beauty
Grandeur
Light
Mercy
Words
Names
Perfection
Might
Will
Knowledge
Power
Speech
Questions
Honor
Sovereignty
Dominion
There are also the Names of God which include attributes which are too numerous to mention in this post so I have supplied a link to some of those mentioned in the Baha'i Writings:
http://bahai-library.com/takkenberg_names_god
I'll supply a list of them translated into English:
Splendor
Glory
Beauty
Grandeur
Light
Mercy
Words
Names
Perfection
Might
Will
Knowledge
Power
Speech
Questions
Honor
Sovereignty
Dominion
There are also the Names of God which include attributes which are too numerous to mention in this post so I have supplied a link to some of those mentioned in the Baha'i Writings:
http://bahai-library.com/takkenberg_names_god
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That's true. But basically it is what religious texts of the religion one believes in has to offer. I believe a religion telling who God is is a religion closer to perfection (I'm not saying "perfect" in this context) than those don't. I believe followers deserve to know some information about who they serve, and the best way to tell them is thru religious texts.
I wonder, what do you make of the following Islamic views I've heard:
1) Tawhid (the doctrine of the oneness of God, for those not in the know
and
2) God can have no attributes which a human can have - all God's attributes are unique to God?
Hmm...
1) It means oneness in worshiping only; worshiping only one god. The word in Arabic actually means monotheism.
2) Yes and no, they can be had by humans too, but not in an absolute manner. A human can be one, but God is the One. A human can be powerful, but God is the Powerful. It is the absolution and having no limits in attributes. One more example, God in Islam never had offspring, yet a human can also be in a state of never having offspring. I don't have offspring, yet that does not make me share the attribute with God since His is absolute by nature.
I hope that makes sense. I'm bad at explaining stuff.
Ah... yyyup
Not as long as I'm still keeping my cool
Prove it and give me a million dollar.
Does paypal transference work with you?
You think he is a vengeful God??
Only if you call delivering justice without holding back vengeful
Everything we think we know about God is pure speculation.
Not if found in religious texts of which we believe God revealed
buddhist
Well-Known Member
I'm still an unrealized God.Prove it and give me a million dollar.
Does paypal transference work with you?
I'm still an unrealized God.
Prove you are a god and I'll approve of you so you would be realized
I'll convince others to do that too... but that requires extra million dollar for each person
buddhist
Well-Known Member
Realization means self-realizationProve you are a god and I'll approve of you so you would be realized
I'll convince others to do that too... but that requires extra million dollar for each person
Realization means self-realization
Okay, I'll self-realize you (if that even makes sense)
Treks
Well-Known Member
Okay, I'll self-realize you (if that even makes sense)
Thems fighting words! hahaha
Peace be on you.
Tawhid or Tauheed means:
=There is none worthy of worship except Allah.
=Allah is unique in Being
=Allah is unique in having all and perfect Noble Attributes [some of which He has disclosed to human, others kept to Himself]
=There is none like Him.
=He has no associates / partners / likes / helpers.
['He' is not used as male gender; it is a Arabic-English grammar matter; unlike English, the Arabic male pronoun does not imply gender; due to non-availabilty of equivalent propnoun, 'He' is closest --though 'He' runs the risk of personification, 'It' runs the opposite risk of depersonification]
God wants believers to imbibe His attributes at human level.
Translation 1= [2;139] Say, ‘We will adopt the religion of Allah; and who is better than Allah in teaching religion, and Him alone do we worship.’
Translation 2= [2:139] Say, ‘We will adopt the Colour of Allah; and who is better than Allah in teaching to get His Colour, and Him alone do we worship.’
More Note 156 @ https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=59®ion=EN&CR=E1,E2&CR=E1,E2
Certainly there are Divine Attributes which human cannot copy, but it is a general matter that human should become like Image of God.
Creation is surely and definitely different than Creator.......We see it in the world too; Engineer is different than the product.
In Islam [and we believe that, in the original form of all religions] God has no associates whatsoever, every other thing including Prophets and other sacred people, are God's creations.
Well, thankyou for your perspective
I know of some Sufi groups who would say tawhid means that naught but Allah can exist, and so all is God!
'Ana al-Haqq' - Mansur al-Hallaj.
So it's nice to see the variation in understandings within Islam.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Why would a God who is infinite in everyway.......
concern himself a semi sentinent life mass, on the third planet of an insignificant small star, on the reaches of a spiral arm of a minor galaxy that is almost lost in the vastness of Countess others making up this universe.?
It seems our egos are infinitely disproportionate to our importance, for us to think so.
concern himself a semi sentinent life mass, on the third planet of an insignificant small star, on the reaches of a spiral arm of a minor galaxy that is almost lost in the vastness of Countess others making up this universe.?
It seems our egos are infinitely disproportionate to our importance, for us to think so.
Because He wants to
It is believed that God wanted daily obligatory prayers in Islam to be 50. He later decided to make it only 5. He wanted that.