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God's Attributes .

Kirran

Kirran

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Premium Member
Why do you think God wanted daily prayers from a subset of the organisms existing at onetime on some dust mote in a solar system, which is itself like one grain of sand in the Sahara of the Galaxy, itself like one leaf in the Amazon rainforest of the universe? I'm actually curious!
 
Jedster

Jedster

Well-Known Member
Smart_Guy said:
Because He wants to :)

It is believed that God wanted daily obligatory prayers in Islam to be 50. He later decided to make it only 5. He wanted that.
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Actually Truth wants to be remembered constantly, simply because that is the best way a human can experience their life, i.e in the consciousness of Truth.
So, what ever our beliefs(or lack of them ) might be, all living beings are remembering Truth.
So Truth built Itself into our design. It hides behind the breath.
Born into a world of ideas, we soon forget Truth and spend the rest of our lives breathing, which when given a little attention reminds and returns us to Truth and hence a wonderful life experience.

So, SG, breathing rate is anywhere between 10 and 60 breathes per minute(according to the mini-god Google), that means between 14400 and 86400 breaths/prayers a day.
So we all pray constantly.:)
 
S

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Kirran said:
Why do you think God wanted daily prayers from a subset of the organisms existing at onetime on some dust mote in a solar system, which is itself like one grain of sand in the Sahara of the Galaxy, itself like one leaf in the Amazon rainforest of the universe? I'm actually curious!
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Eh?

Ah, I don't know! He said it that He created us to worship Him, yet he does not really need it. I think He wanted to give us a purpose in life instead of just dwelling in it seeking our own benefit?

I don't really know.

Jedster said:
Actually Truth wants to be remembered constantly, simply because that is the best way a human can experience their life, i.e in the consciousness of Truth.
So, what ever our beliefs(or lack of them ) might be, all living beings are remembering Truth.
So Truth built Itself into our design. It hides behind the breath.
Born into a world of ideas, we soon forget Truth and spend the rest of our lives breathing, which when given a little attention reminds and returns us to Truth and hence a wonderful life experience.

So, SG, breathing rate is anywhere between 10 and 60 breathes per minute(according to the mini-god Google), that means between 14400 and 86400 breaths/prayers a day.
So we all pray constantly.:)
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Cool!

That, um, was some nicely put peace :D
 
DawudTalut

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Kirran said:
Why do you think God wanted daily prayers from a subset of the organisms existing at onetime on some dust mote in a solar system, which is itself like one grain of sand in the Sahara of the Galaxy, itself like one leaf in the Amazon rainforest of the universe? I'm actually curious!
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According to Holy Quran, everything is glorifying God:
[17:45] The seven heavens and the earth and those that are therein extol His glory; and there is not a thing but glorifies Him with His praise; but you understand not their glorification. Verily, He is Forbearing, Most Forgiving.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Terrywoodenpic said:
Why would a God who is infinite in everyway.......
concern himself a semi sentinent life mass, on the third planet of an insignificant small star, on the reaches of a spiral arm of a minor galaxy that is almost lost in the vastness of Countess others making up this universe.?

It seems our egos are infinitely disproportionate to our importance, for us to think so.
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and it is written.....
what is Man that You are mindful of him?
Psalms
 
Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Attributes of the one-god based on what I've been told by worshippers of that god or various knowledgable academics/theologians:
  • Omnimax (omnipresent, omnipotent, omnibenevolent)
  • Eternal (death/birth not applicable)
  • Transcendent (dualistic separation of their god with nature/universe)
  • Supernatural (above/beyond nature)
  • Ineffable (so categorically different than humans it is beyond human comprehension)
  • Singular (one entity/force rather than many)
  • Creator (and source of all things, including if not especially morality)
Some things I've heard people say about the one-god (by detractors, mostly) that I don't particularly believe:
  • That this god is sadistic/evil
  • That this god is not real or merely fictitious
  • That this god is a literal being
  • That this god is comparable to humans
  • That this god makes no sense (illogical/irrational)
Attributes I would give this god as a polytheist:
  • This god imposes hegemony
  • This god is remote and unrelatable
  • This god is obtuse
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
What ever our various religions Say about God, we know nothing at all substantial about him.
we know equally little about the after life.
What little we think we know, we only do so on trust.....And then only if what our scriptures tell us is accurate.

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Our solar system may exist for a further 5 billion years before the sun explodes That is a little longer than it has already existed.
Man has been on earth for about 200,000 years. At an extreme the earth will be habitable for perhaps a further Billion years. It is just possible that man will survive in some form or another for at least part of that billion years.
provided that the World does not suffer another cometary disaster.

Best estimates suggest that the Universe is 13.82 billion years old. It may contain millions of inhabited planets.
What is God's role in this?,..... or is he only concerned with the short period of time that man will exist?
 
Neo Deist

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Smart_Guy said:
Not if found in religious texts of which we believe God revealed :D
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Not to be the storm cloud that brings the rain, but those texts were man made as well. Claiming divine inspiration is merely a way of trying to prevent others from doubting your claims. Divine inspiration can't be proven. Ultimately, you choose what you want to believe...something that resonates with you.

I could sit here and say "God has spoken to me, and the whole world has it wrong with regard to religion." That would be my claim to divine inspiration. You can't disprove my claim, even though it conflicts with your religion.
 
S

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Neo Deist said:
Not to be the storm cloud that brings the rain, but those texts were man made as well. Claiming divine inspiration is merely a way of trying to prevent others from doubting your claims. Divine inspiration can't be proven. Ultimately, you choose what you want to believe...something that resonates with you.

I could sit here and say "God has spoken to me, and the whole world has it wrong with regard to religion." That would be my claim to divine inspiration. You can't disprove my claim, even though it conflicts with your religion.
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This is debatable and a completely religion dependent belief and in my beliefs, the ones my posts are based on, those texts were revealed from the creator. I can't debate it here since it is against the rules as per the instructions of RF's owner here: http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/reminder-no-debating-in-comparative-religion.1242/

Remember, this is a Comparative Religion thread, which means comparing religions. It is not for debates.

But you do have a good argument there.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Terrywoodenpic said:
Why would a God who is infinite in everyway.......
concern himself a semi sentinent life mass, on the third planet of an insignificant small star, on the reaches of a spiral arm of a minor galaxy that is almost lost in the vastness of Countess others making up this universe.?

It seems our egos are infinitely disproportionate to our importance, for us to think so.
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The universe revolves around us still, didnjya know? ;)

:oops:
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I only heard Joel Osteen once on t.v. I know there is a lot of talk against him, and I also know there are different ways that one take in their faith. I listened to this video "Pray God-sized Prayers" below (30min) and, if you like, you can take out the content (if not your faith) and look at context.

I know there are some people struggling. I thought this a good video.

Also, ;) it does list more attributes of god.

 
DawudTalut

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Terrywoodenpic said:
Those are just human style attributes, there is nothing that describes attributes unique to God.
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Some unique attributes:
1=
Unique Maker of vast system and management:

[Quran -- ch13:v3] Allah is He Who raised up the heavens without any pillars that you can see. Then He settled Himself on the Throne. And He pressed the sun and the moon into service: each pursues its course until an appointed term. He regulates it all. He clearly explains the Signs, that you may have a firm belief in the meeting with your Lord.



2=
God brings sun from east, who-else can bring it from west?
 
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